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| WCRC Suspended- Again 17/02/2016 at 18:04 #80735 | |
Steamer
3985 posts |
West Coast Railway Company has had its operating license suspended by the ORR as of 18/02/2016, after failing to implement improvements following its previous suspension. The decision letter from the ORR to WCRC can be read here: http://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/20848/2016-02-17-decision-letter-to-west-coast-railway.pdf It appears that lessons were not learnt and hints not taken... "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Last edited: 17/02/2016 at 18:05 by Steamer Log in to reply |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 17/02/2016 at 19:24 #80737 | |
jc92
3687 posts |
The NRM finally gets scotsman completed and then they haven't got anyone to crew it! I'm suprised there hasnt been a rival company set up to supply charter services against WCRC. Theres plenty of places suitable and for sale (Crewe Diesel for instance) and players with the financial position to do it. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 17/02/2016 at 20:32 #80738 | |
tjfrancis
359 posts |
Do Drs have any steam train drivers or can we use heritage railway drivers just get then trained and insurance for mainline.
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| WCRC Suspended- Again 17/02/2016 at 20:38 #80739 | |
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valenta43002
43 posts |
Crew diesel is leased to Jeremy Hoskings for his steam engines, there is a rumour he might buy West Coast out
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| WCRC Suspended- Again 17/02/2016 at 23:45 #80744 | |
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Steamer
3985 posts |
" said:Do Drs have any steam train drivers or can we use heritage railway drivers just get then trained and insurance for mainline.To operate steam trains, the TOC must have steam traction on their safety case. The only TOCs to have this (as far as I'm aware) are WCRC and DBS. If DRS wanted to get into the steam market, they'd have to complete the necessary paperwork. Ditto heritage line drivers- they would have to be employed (if only on a zero-hours type contract) by a TOC and meet their requirements in terms of route knowledge, traction handling etc. There is the added complication that DBS won't touch vacuum-braked stock at present, so certain owning groups (Tyseley is one I believe) with vac locos are without an operator at present. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 18/02/2016 at 09:36 #80750 | |
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Danny252
1461 posts |
" said:Ditto heritage line drivers- they would have to be employed (if only on a zero-hours type contract) by a TOC and meet their requirements in terms of route knowledge, traction handling etc.Although the ORR's letter implies that they aren't very keen on zero-hours contracts being used for that purpose, with WCRC being required to move their employees to a "more appropriate form of employment". Log in to reply |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 18/02/2016 at 10:54 #80751 | |
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tjfrancis
359 posts |
tyseley is run by WCRC but they was but they may be going to DBS as they do have some steam drivers as they do the belmond british pullman train and the railway touring e.l.c.
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| WCRC Suspended- Again 18/02/2016 at 11:36 #80752 | |
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Danny252
1461 posts |
About the only correct statement in that post is that WCRC run the services from Tyseley. DRS do not run any steam services, do not run the Belmond British Pullman services (DBS run those), and do not run the Railway Touring Company services (WCRC run, or ran, those).
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| WCRC Suspended- Again 18/02/2016 at 11:41 #80753 | |
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tjfrancis
359 posts |
danny i thnk you miss read my post i did say DBS and Railway Touring Company services do use DBS on some tours but use
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| WCRC Suspended- Again 18/02/2016 at 12:30 #80754 | |
headshot119
4869 posts |
" said:tyseley is run by WCRC but they was but they may be going to DBS as they do have some steam drivers as they do the belmond british pullman train and the railway touring e.l.c.DBS won't go near anything that doesn't have air brakes. Mainline steam isn't exactly my biggest area of knowledge (being in the DMU preservation movement) but aren't most of the WCRC locomotives and stock vacumn braked? "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 18/02/2016 at 13:05 #80755 | |
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Danny252
1461 posts |
" said:danny i thnk you miss read my post i did say DBSPerhaps after the edit timed after my reply, yes! Log in to reply |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 18/02/2016 at 14:14 #80756 | |
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tjfrancis
359 posts |
" said:" said:text was not edit just putting some grammar in to the post.danny i thnk you miss read my post i did say DBSPerhaps after the edit timed after my reply, yes! I am dyslexic so please consider this when reading my posts Log in to reply |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 19/02/2016 at 12:52 #80775 | |
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Underwood
748 posts |
No notice on their tour site surprisingly, all tours still available to book! http://www.westcoastrailways.co.uk/railtours/ I booked the Penzance tour that's on at the end of April, probably won't happen now, in which case I'd want a refund and I'll just book the Mazey Day tour with Pathfinder instead Log in to reply |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 27/03/2016 at 20:35 #81423 | |
belly buster
368 posts |
Rail ban lifted on 'near miss' steam train firm Quote: A rail ban on a steam train operator accused of posing a "serious risk" to the network has been lifted.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35899187 Log in to reply |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 28/03/2016 at 08:46 #81430 | |
BarryM
2158 posts |
" said:Rail ban lifted on 'near miss' steam train firmDoes not say much about the Company & Driver having to face court over Health & Safety regulations. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Last edited: 28/03/2016 at 08:47 by BarryM Log in to reply |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 28/03/2016 at 09:53 #81434 | |
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Steamer
3985 posts |
" said:" said:Court proceedings are ongoing regarding the Wooton Bassett incident, and it sounds like they're going to drag on for a while.Rail ban lifted on 'near miss' steam train firmDoes not say much about the Company & Driver having to face court over Health & Safety regulations. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 28/03/2016 at 12:19 #81441 | |
bfcmik
100 posts |
The latest suspension was as a result of several less newsworthy breaches of HSE regulations and other protocols rather than the Wooton Bassett incident. There were accusations of management complicity in ignoring potential serious issues with locos and rolling stock in the interests of getting a train 'out there' and cutting costs. These are what ORR says it is now satisfied with. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: JamesN |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 17/04/2016 at 09:07 #81878 | |
Peter Bennet
5402 posts |
Involved in another incident at Bath Spa I read the other day. Train stopped short then moved forward with the doors open. Someone has now leaked the incident log which makes for interesting reading. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Dhassell |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 17/04/2016 at 14:37 #81882 | |
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Dhassell
4 posts |
Where can this be found?
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| WCRC Suspended- Again 17/04/2016 at 15:06 #81883 | |
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Sacro
1171 posts |
On WNXX, free login is required, I'll post the Google Cache link when it becomes available.
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| WCRC Suspended- Again 17/04/2016 at 15:20 #81884 | |
postal
5265 posts |
" said:Where can this be found?Well I put "WCRC Bath Spa doors open" into Google and 2 of the first 4 entries linked to the story. In fairness to WCRC, further down the Google list is the link to the ORR Suspension Letter (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&ved=0ahUKEwj1mt6i_JXMAhVHVRoKHRpZBhUQFghPMAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Forr.gov.uk%2F__data%2F) in which WCRC say they have no knowledge of such an incident. WCRC state that when brakes were released at departure there was a movement backwards but this after all passengers were on board and the doors locked. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 17/04/2016 at 15:29 by postal Log in to reply |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 17/04/2016 at 16:01 #81885 | |
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Peter Bennet
5402 posts |
" said:" said:That's an old incident, this one allegedly occured last Wednesday. The leak is also reporduced on Scot-Rail forum.Where can this be found?Well I put "WCRC Bath Spa doors open" into Google and 2 of the first 4 entries linked to the story. I'm reluctant to link or reproduce but like celebrity gagging orders they can be found if you look. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: postal |
| WCRC Suspended- Again 17/04/2016 at 21:25 #81889 | |
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RainbowNines
272 posts |
I've read the incident log as reproduced on WNXX. It is... Illuminating. What a mess! Be interested to see if RAIB consider it worthy of investigation - it doesn't really fit their mandatory criteria but given the circumstances in the incident log, and with the backdrop of WCRC's recent escapades, I have a suspicion they might pick it up. Their Wootton Bassett report is now in consulting stage so they're unlikely to make reference to this incident in that. Log in to reply |