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Westbury routes 18/03/2016 at 10:08 #81247 | |
Jamesh1492
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Hello I'm playing Westbury this morning and I'm realising once the train has gone past the route I've set its not cancelling and ive got reset all the routes my self? can any shead some light on this please? James Log in to reply |
Westbury routes 18/03/2016 at 10:14 #81248 | |
Stephen Fulcher
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Train operated route release only works in certain difficulty levels. I cannot remember exactly which, but if you have it on the harder levels you will have to cancel the routes out behind each train. This is prototypical for this type of panel and interlocking. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Jamesh1492 |
Westbury routes 18/03/2016 at 10:17 #81249 | |
headshot119
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Yes the real Westbury panel is a Western Region E10K Push Push panel. Due to the nature of this type of panel, they aren't fitted with TORR (Train Operated Route Release). This is accurately represented in the Westbury simulation unless you are playing on Perfect or Beginner mode.
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Last edited: 18/03/2016 at 10:21 by headshot119 Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Jamesh1492 |
Westbury routes 18/03/2016 at 10:21 #81251 | |
Jamesh1492
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cheers for the quick replies guys ![]() Log in to reply |
Westbury routes 18/03/2016 at 10:22 #81252 | |
JamesN
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What you're observing is a lack of TORR (Train-Operated Route Release) To make the route "vanish" behind a train in panels - such as Westbury - needed a lot of extra circuitry/relays in the late 50s design of Interlocking Westbury uses. Given Westbury's traffic levels it was decided pulling the button up after every train was a much simpler solution! As technology progressed into the 1980s and these circuits became cheaper/easier to do it became more prevalent, and in SSI (IECCs etc) it's just a few more line of code - no real hardship at all. The majority of sims which cover a No-TORR panel will either provide an option on startup, or simulate the panel as if it had TORR. Westbury's author has decided instead to link TORR state to the difficulty selected on startup, rather than provide a specific option. If I recall correctly "Beginner" has TORR, the other difficulties have no TORR. EDIT: Stephen and Karl beat me to it.... Last edited: 18/03/2016 at 10:23 by JamesN Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Jamesh1492 |
Westbury routes 18/03/2016 at 10:27 #81254 | |
headshot119
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" said:What you're observing is a lack of TORR (Train-Operated Route Release)Western region men are like buses, never any about, then three turn up at once. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Jamesh1492, JamesN, Sacro, tjfrancis, flabberdacks |
Westbury routes 18/03/2016 at 10:30 #81255 | |
Stephen Fulcher
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The only application of TORR to E10k interlockings I know of were when some of the Reading Interlockings were moved into the Thames Valley Signalling Centre and driven off IECCs, but that was achieved through the IECC processors rather than with relays. A turn-push panel could not possibly drive TORR, and the expense of providing it to the push-push panels at Westbury would be extortionate for negligible gain, and I am not sure that anyone officially even designed any circuits to allow for that. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Jamesh1492 |
Westbury routes 18/03/2016 at 18:01 #81260 | |
GeoffM
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" said:A turn-push panel could not possibly drive TORRIt is perfectly possible, though a bit pointless when you have to turn the switch back on a turn-push anyway. However, it would be done at interlocking level, not panel level. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |