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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 04:19 #82251
jem771
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102 posts 		Anyone have any idea what this signal's purpose is?
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 05:58 #82252
Hugh Jampton
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69 posts 		It looks like a banner repeater signal, to indicate the state of the platform starter. See http://www.railsigns.uk/photos/p_repsig1/p_repsig1.html
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 06:01 #82253
jem771
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102 posts 		Not seen any banner repeaters like that before.
looks mechanical. taking in to consideration that Brighton is under Three Bridges SC
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 06:33 #82254
LMK
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133 posts 		" said:
Not seen any banner repeaters like that before.
looks mechanical. taking in to consideration that Brighton is under Three Bridges SC
There are still a few mechanical banner repeaters on the area controlled by Victoria SC too. E.g. At London Victoria on the first few platforms
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 07:59 #82256
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1738 posts 		" said:
Not seen any banner repeaters like that before.
looks mechanical. taking in to consideration that Brighton is under Three Bridges SC

I think you'll find it's actually a shunt signal mechanism as used by the Southern Railway and BR(S) in their colour light schemes, floodlit for night use, and with the disc changed for a black-on-white one so it can act as a banner repeater for a signal which is out of sight round the corner. Details of the mechanism here http://www.wbsframe.mste.co.uk/public/Shunt_signals.html on Mark Adlington's excellent 'L' frame website http://www.wbsframe.mste.co.uk/public/index.htm
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 08:08 #82257
clive
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2781 posts 		" said:
Not seen any banner repeaters like that before.
looks mechanical. taking in to consideration that Brighton is under Three Bridges SC
Even an electronic interlocking can control mechanical signals via an appropriate interface. Moving something like that is much the same as moving a set of points, after all.
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 09:57 #82262
BarryM
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2158 posts 		I noticed that this signal is not displayed in Brighton's sum!

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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 14:04 #82266
jem771
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102 posts 		Whats also odd is that it will be behind most train cabs. It can only be for releasing locos off the buffer stops – which must never happen these days
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 14:08 #82267
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4869 posts 		" said:
I noticed that this signal is not displayed in Brighton's sum!

Barry
Banner Repeaters aren't always drawn on the box diagram, or panel.
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 14:58 #82268
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86 posts 		" said:
" said:
I noticed that this signal is not displayed in Brighton's sum!

Barry
Banner Repeaters aren't always drawn on the box diagram, or panel.
Quite right , Take Motherwell Simsig! Platform 2 (Down Main) has a twin banner repeater with the lower banner for the Down Coatbridge. This is shown on the splash screen with the 318 EMU departing with the Footbridge over the platforms. It is however , not shown on the Sim area!
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 16:00 #82269
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6370 posts 		" said:
I noticed that this signal is not displayed in Brighton's sum!
Banner repeaters in bay platforms aren't proved lit (or in the correct position for mechanical banners like this) so it's not necessary to show them...


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Quite right , Take Motherwell Simsig! Platform 2 (Down Main) has a twin banner repeater with the lower banner for the Down Coatbridge. This is shown on the splash screen with the 318 EMU departing with the Footbridge over the platforms. It is however , not shown on the Sim area!
...whereas ones like this most definitely should be there. Reported as #15300.
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 17:43 #82271
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316 posts 		Here is the banner repeater at Motherwell.
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 17:45 #82272
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316 posts 		There are 3 banner repeaters indicated on the panel for Three Bridges.
Note incorrect numbering
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 18:13 #82273
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3683 posts 		Drawn. Not indicated. Theres no indication of aspect there I can see.

Motherwell does have an indication.
"We don't stop camborne wednesdays"
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 11/05/2016 at 18:44 #82274
LMK
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133 posts 		" said:
Whats also odd is that it will be behind most train cabs. It can only be for releasing locos off the buffer stops – which must never happen these days

Platform 1 is Mainly used by Coastway services which are normally ran by 3 car class 313's so maybe it's for the drivers of those trains.

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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 12/05/2016 at 14:06 #82291
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306 posts 		When Brighton was resignalled we still had 2haps on the Coastway and loco hauled parcel/paper trains plus the inter regional down to Plymouth.

At least one if not all of the BRs are detected as T663 won't clear if they fail to show an off thus trains need to be flagged out of platform 1.
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Signal Platform 1 Brighton 12/05/2016 at 17:41 #82297
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6370 posts 		" said:
When Brighton was resignalled we still had 2haps on the Coastway and loco hauled parcel/paper trains plus the inter regional down to Plymouth.

At least one if not all of the BRs are detected as T663 won't clear if they fail to show an off thus trains need to be flagged out of platform 1.
That's odd. It would seem that the banner could show off/proceed while the signal is at red for that to happen. Normally the signal has to be off before a banner approaching it can then show off!
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