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| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 03/03/2018 at 23:16 #106384 | |
bugsy
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5Y08 & 2Y08. An Interesting problem in Edinburgh 2006 sim v3.238.2 (04.45 start) At 09.30 5Y08 is making its way from Slateford to Haymarket P3 where ACI changes the Train Code to 2Y08. It then proceeds, as per its timetable, to Waverley P1 and onwards to North Berwick. However. I noted that the Train description 5Y08 did not disappear from the F2 Train List and neither did 2Y08 appear. (This is apparent in the first screenshot). I wasn’t sure what the ramifications would be, so I continued playing as if everything was Ok to see what would happen. The second screenshot shows 2Y08 trundling along at 98mph at Prestonpans and still nothing has changed in the Train List (See second screenshot). Nothing was amiss until the Train arrived at Drem Loops shortly before 09.58, where it was directed, by ARS, towards North Berwick. Shortly after, I received a telephone call saying that 5Y08 had an incorrect route set and at the same time the Train List was saying that the last location was still Haymarket P3! I don’t think so! Something is wrong. Who has the answer? I have attached the screenshots mentioned above and a saved game at 09.30. Bugsy Footnote: I notice that the attached screeshots are no longer embeded as they were in the original post. I think I saw somewhere that this type of situation is being investigated. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Last edited: 04/03/2018 at 19:58 by bugsy Reason: Footnote added Log in to reply |
| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 10:16 #106392 | |
BarryM
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Haymarket does not handle ACIs! Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 14:03 #106411 | |
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bugsy
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BarryM in post 106392 said:Haymarket does not handle ACIs!That may be the case, but the Train Descrption changed from 5Y08 to 2Y08 at Haymarket P3, although the Train list showed it as still being 5Y08. I had to 'Run the train to another timetable' in F2, that tt obviously being 2Y08. Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Log in to reply |
| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 14:19 #106412 | |
postal
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bugsy in post 106411 said:BarryM in post 106392 said:But you shouldn't need to do that unless there is an error in the TT or a bug in the sim. The ARS/ACI issue is a red herring in regard to that. So that others can try and work out what is going wrong and why, it would be helpful if you could include things like sim version number and which TT when you make a posting like your OP.Haymarket does not handle ACIs!That may be the case, but the Train Descrption changed from 5Y08 to 2Y08 at Haymarket P3, although the Train list showed it as still being 5Y08. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 14:25 #106414 | |
MarkC
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bugsy in post 106411 said:BarryM in post 106392 said:From what I have seen from your save the train has not stepped correctly, which signal did you reverse the train at, ES975 (orange box on attached picture) or ES977 (Blue box on attached picture).Haymarket does not handle ACIs!That may be the case, but the Train Descrption changed from 5Y08 to 2Y08 at Haymarket P3, although the Train list showed it as still being 5Y08. And if it was at signal ES975 did you manually reverse the train? That may account for the train not having recognised that it has reversed and for the train not changing to the next working at Haymarket and you having to manually change it to 2Y08--1 
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| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 14:41 #106416 | |
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postal
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It's another one where you've done something in regard to 5Y08-1 which has caused the sim to lose track of the location of the train. When 5Y08-1 arrives at Haymarket, the sim still has it recorded as Current/Next location Slateford Jn. The fact that F2 shows as waiting at signal EH510 rather than stopped at Haymarket might have given you a clue that something was wrong. If you open your 0930 save and use F2 to reset the Current/Next location of 5Y08-1 to Haymarket everything works fine.and the TT changes to 2Y08-1 when 5Y08-1 arrives at Haymarket. There is no bug in sim or TT. Edit: 2 people coming up with the same answer at the same time! “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 04/03/2018 at 14:42 by postal Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 15:24 #106420 | |
Hap
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I had to interpose the headcode 5Y08-1 again so that it was found in ARS. on opening save, 5Y08-1 wasn't found on ARS. (again, not that it made any difference when train got to HYM, after setting next location as HYM, both headcode and F2 updated as should). Side note... ES975 is normally used to turn now, rather than going into Slateford station. How to report an issue: www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=usertrack:reportanissue Log in to reply |
| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 15:37 #106423 | |
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postal
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Hap in post 106420 said:I had to interpose the headcode 5Y08-1 again so that it was found in ARS. on opening save, 5Y08-1 wasn't found on ARS. (again, not that it made any difference when train got to HYM, after setting next location as HYM, both headcode and F2 updated as should).That's possibly because Bugsy had turned off the ARS through the central core from Portobello to Slateford. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 15:45 #106424 | |
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Hap
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postal in post 106423 said:Hap in post 106420 said:I turned it all back on just after sim loaded on pause. Anyway, was just an observation really.I had to interpose the headcode 5Y08-1 again so that it was found in ARS. on opening save, 5Y08-1 wasn't found on ARS. (again, not that it made any difference when train got to HYM, after setting next location as HYM, both headcode and F2 updated as should).That's possibly because Bugsy had turned off the ARS through the central core from Portobello to Slateford. How to report an issue: www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=usertrack:reportanissue Log in to reply |
| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 16:31 #106426 | |
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bugsy
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MarkC in post 106414 said:I think that you have answered it. I must have reversed it at ES975 (in the orange box), although I don't know why, as The tt tells you where to reverse. I've run the sim again from 09.20 and this time reversed at ES977. At Haymarket P3 the train ID changed to 2Y08 and shortly after, it changed to 2Y08 in the Train List. Yet another lesson learnt. I must read the tt properly! Wasted everyone's time. Sorry. Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Last edited: 04/03/2018 at 16:32 by bugsy Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 17:51 #106428 | |
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postal
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bugsy in post 106426 said:Yet another lesson learnt. I must read the tt properly!Don't worry about it because we've all been there. You'll soon do things like checking the TT, current location etc. as a matter of habit. Keep plugging away and the tricks of the trade eventually become second nature. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 17:54 #106429 | |
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JamesN
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bugsy in post 106426 said:Yet another lesson learnt. I must read the tt properly!Not in the slightest - you didn't understand something; you spoke up. It was investigated and we found out where the error was. While I appreciate the sentiment/reasoning - is there any chance you could un-delete your initial post? It helps if someone else has the same issue in future and can read through what you experienced and how you solved it; rather than read the solution to a problem that anyone coming along after the event doesn't know about. Log in to reply |
| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 18:28 #106433 | |
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bugsy
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JamesN in post 106429 said:I didn't know that you could un-delete a post. Can you tell me how? Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Log in to reply |
| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 18:48 #106435 | |
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JamesN
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bugsy in post 106433 said:I didn't know that you could un-delete a post.I was being too simplistic in my phrasing - Instead of editing your initial post to "Deleted as found the simple answer" - it would have been more useful if you had either left it as is, or just added something like "Resolved - see below". Now anyone who's had the same issue looking back for solutions won't find it because you've taken the "what went wrong" out of the thread. Is there any chance you can re-edit your initial post to include a brief summary of what your problem was? For the benefit of other users who may encounter same/similar problems. - That's what I meant by "un-delete". Log in to reply |
| 5Y08/2Y08 identification mystery 04/03/2018 at 19:46 #106445 | |
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bugsy
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JamesN in post 106435 said:bugsy in post 106433 said:This will actually be possible, as I always use 'Word' to prepare and edit the text that I intend to post.I didn't know that you could un-delete a post.Is there any chance you can re-edit your initial post to include a brief summary of what your problem was? For the benefit of other users who may encounter same/similar problems. - That's what I meant by "un-delete". You'll see the 'edited' post above. Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: JamesN |