Creating a Time Table

Hi all so i want to create a Marylebone Timetable based on the 24th January 2017. and i'm wondering how people get information about getting timetables. i've tried open train times but i'm unable to see the timetable for that day

For what its worth, to create my Piccadilly TT for 30th December I went to copy and paste certain locations from Open Train Times, which I was anticipating having to fill out further using the WTT, into a spreadsheet. This spreadsheet still works and brings up the data for that day (complete with delay information and platform usage) over two months later which ended up giving me a comfortable margin in which to complete the TT.

Splodge in post 106700 said:

For what its worth, to create my Piccadilly TT for 30th December I went to copy and paste certain locations from Open Train Times, which I was anticipating having to fill out further using the WTT, into a spreadsheet. This spreadsheet still works and brings up the data for that day (complete with delay information and platform usage) over two months later which ended up giving me a comfortable margin in which to complete the TT.

Just to expand on that- RTT and OTT don't allow location-based searches older than a week, but if you can enter a schedule UID and date in your browser's address bar, it will show the schedule if the date/UID is valid and the data has been retained. I'm not exactly sure how long the data is held for though, I'd be surprised if it's more than 6 months.

Kimb01996 in post 106660 said:

Hi all so i want to create a Marylebone Timetable based on the 24th January 2017. and i'm wondering how people get information about getting timetables. i've tried open train times but i'm unable to see the timetable for that day

You need to acquire the timetables from a supplier or have a friendly helper supply them. Me for example. As an unexpected bonus of privatisation, a lot of material is now available online that used to be strcitly private & confidential within the railway industry. Network Rail's current timetables can be found online simply by searching for "working timetable". It's worth downloading them and squirreling them away against the day someone wants them. That should take you here:
https://www.networkrail.co.uk/running-the-railway/timetabling/working-timetable/

Your January 2017 WTTs for Marylebone are attached to this post.

Network Rail Open Data portal would have supplied you with that information had you downloaded it by the date you wanted it. Historical data is not available there, or on RTT, or OTT - or not more than a couple of weeks in the past anyway.

Was 24th January special in some way? Whatlep's WTTs presumably have the long term planned schedules but not specials, engineering works, STPs etc.

You'll have to ask your colleagues at Chiltern if they still have the timetable data, and if they'd be willing to make a copy of it for you, or wait and see if a Forum member happened to save it.

Steamer in post 106903 said:

You'll have to ask your colleagues at Chiltern if they still have the timetable data, and if they'd be willing to make a copy of it for you, or wait and see if a Forum member happened to save it.

Found an Xmas 2017 xml file pm'd you details of where to get it from

Network Rail Open Data portal would have supplied you with that information had you downloaded it by the date you wanted it. Historical data is not available there, or on RTT, or OTT - or not more than a couple of weeks in the past anyway.

Was 24th January special in some way? Whatlep's WTTs presumably have the long term planned schedules but not specials, engineering works, STPs etc.

GeoffM in post 106695 said:

Network Rail Open Data portal would have supplied you with that information had you downloaded it by the date you wanted it. Historical data is not available there, or on RTT, or OTT - or not more than a couple of weeks in the past anyway.

Was 24th January special in some way? Whatlep's WTTs presumably have the long term planned schedules but not specials, engineering works, STPs etc.

Hi, I am self learning to write timetables too, but when I am researching I found that WTT published by Network Rails gives pretty much everything one needs, except for train types, i.e. for a given service I wouldn't be able to match the correct train type, e.g. for West Hamsptead there seems to be insufficient information to tell what class is used, or even in what formation (e.g. if it is one or two 319 units). The timing load is sure confusing enough too, I know it is not intended to tell what type is used, but seeing 319 and 375 there does baffles me (I gather 319s don't run on Thameslink anymore, and neither does 387, which I think is what 375 refers to)

Am I missing something here? Would love advice on where I can find the missing piece to get the timetable accurate.

Maybe it would be nice to have a pinned thread where stock diagrams could be added; there doesn't seem to be an easy way to find these for any specific TOC.