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| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 18/08/2018 at 21:27 #111238 | |
58050
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I'd say so John. From my experience the loco wouldn't come off Kingmoor TMD until the vehicles it was booked to couple to & work away ere in situ in P1. Or else if 5T03 was late you'd end up with a diesel loco occupying a running line or platform for an un-disclosed amount of time & as a result would reduce somewhat the signallers options to route trains if other were running out of course or late. I would imagine that there would be some dialogue between the signaller in Carlisle PSB & the driver of 0S07, so if the vans would arrive late into P1 then the loco would stay at Kingmoor TMD until the train was ready in P1 to accept the engine. The only other alternative would be to amend the timetable data for 0S07 in the sense that if the vans were going to arrive late in P1 for whatever reason the loco could stable in Wall Sdguntil the vans are ready that way 0S07 wouldn't get in the way of anything.
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| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 18/08/2018 at 22:09 #111240 | |
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From what I've witnessed & comments raised by ther users 5T03/5S07/0S07 seems to be causing more problems than anything else so far. IIRC there is a loco 'seeded' in Wall Sdg & it leaves the sdg early on, therefore 0S07 could be re-timetabled into Wall Sdg & then not depart there until the vans arrive. That way if the vans are late the engine isn't blocking a line with other trains stuck behind. That said I can't stress this point enough to users that if you make an error with one of the station pilots you'll end up paying for it big time. So it is essential that users study the excel documents created by John. I know for a fact that John has completed this timetable from start to finish & he knows it far better than me as only played it a handful of times over the years(just too busy writing timetables). This timetable when I decided to do it was never intended to be an easy one & first & foremost I intended it to be as realistic/accurate as we could possibly get it with all the documentation I had to do it. If anyone manages to get through it they'd deserve a drink. But the more times you run it the more things will stick in your memory. Whether I ever write another timetable that is more challenging than this one I doubt, but rest assured it won't be for the waqnt of trying. Despite the few gremlins raised I'm glad to see that it has been well recv'd & if I attend the London meet John Ill buy you a drink for all your excellent work & time you've put into this timetable. Log in to reply |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 18/08/2018 at 22:47 #111241 | |
Steamer
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Had a slight issue at Upperby at around 06:30: 6M34 enters from Upperby Yard and runs round. The run round is timetabled as two trains: one from the through goods, down the run-round line and into Upperby Yard, and a second train from the Yard to the through goods. I'd got the loco through the GF and back into the Yard, however the Upperby shunter then offered me 5A26, which I couldn't accept until 6M34 had gone. I got around it by editing the timetable of 5A26 to delay entry by a couple of minutes, and within a few moments I had a second phone call from Upperby, offering me 0M34 back. I accepted it, and it entered and attached without a problem. I hadn't actually answered the first call for 5A26 at this point, so I then accepted it. I think I got another call for 5A26 shortly after, which I accepted and 5A26 entered correctly. My question is this: if I'd not edited the timetable, would Upperby have rung again to offer 0M34? If I'd declined 5A26, would 0M34 have been offered in its place, or would I continue to be offered 5A26? Finally, as paths exist from the Upperby Yard TT location to the Through Goods, would it be possible to avoid the problem by timetabling 0M34 such that it reverses 'just inside' the yard, and runs round without having to leave the simulation? As I recall, some simulations have exit points that allow trains to shunt into them and then come back out again without falling off the simulation. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Last edited: 18/08/2018 at 22:48 by Steamer Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 18/08/2018 at 23:36 #111242 | |
postal
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The easiest way out in those circumstances is to ask 5A26 to ring back in x minutes (and if you haven't got the 0M34 RR move and re-entry of 0M34 sorted by then, to ask 5A26 to ring back in another x minutes). If you ask the train to ring back, it doesn't enter so you can delay it by increments of however many minutes you are offered in the phone call until you are ready to accept it. While the train is being held prior to ringing back, other trains may ring in requesting permission to enter so 0M34 will ring when ready to enter. There is no need to edit the TT for 5A26 and you can easily catch up the time before departure of 1A26 from Carlisle Citadel. The TT for 5A26 is written taking regard of the information in Mr. Taylor's hand-annotated copy of the Carlisle Station Worker which gives the scheduled departure time from Upperby Yard so the entry and RR move for 6M34 is probably one of the many conflicts that used to exist in the pre-privatisation pragmatic railway, “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Steamer |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 00:03 #111244 | |
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Steamer
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postal in post 111242 said:The easiest way out in those circumstances is to ask 5A26 to ring back in x minutes (and if you haven't got the 0M34 RR move and re-entry of 0M34 sorted by then, to ask 5A26 to ring back in another x minutes). If you ask the train to ring back, it doesn't enter so you can delay it by increments of however many minutes you are offered in the phone call until you are ready to accept it. While the train is being held prior to ringing back, other trains may ring in requesting permission to enter so 0M34 will ring when ready to enter. There is no need to edit the TT for 5A26 and you can easily catch up the time before departure of 1A26 from Carlisle Citadel.Ta, couldn't remember how those types of entry points handled this sort of scenario. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 01:10 #111251 | |
Soton_Speed
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58050 in post 111141 said:John mentioned in his last post that he managed a score in the 90% score with the sim on the easy settings. Personally I can honestly say I've never played this tt with faults & failures on due to the complexity of the timetable. I'd certainly like to know if anyone out there has dared to actually run this tt with faults & failures turned on & how the tt is behaving as a result in view of the extensive shunting around the station over night.First of all; to 58050 & Postal a huge vote of thanks for you efforts in setting and keeping standards high in the realm of Timetable writing. The amount of effort put in is obvious and greatly enhances the sim experience. As someone who like to turn the Simsig experience all the way up to eleven, this TT is playable, if you just admit that timekeeping will go out the window. As a lay-person what information would be of great help is what knock-on effects delays would have outside the sim as it were. For example, can a Tyne Valley diverted train be delayed 10/15 mins because it has enough allowance along its journey that it will have made up by the destination? Or which postal services have to be prioritised to preserve onward connections? - I can see that scoring a train as a Bonus/Pullman may help to distinguish these? (Sorry if this is done already...) This is probably more a sim rather than TT problem, but what are the pathing headways towards the boxes at Corby Gates, Howe & Co. and Wigton? - a few of the Tyne Valley sleepers/motorrail clash with scheduled freights. As far as 0S07 goes, have just told shunter to keep waiting 5mins at Kingmoor until 5T03 is likely to appear at Coiller Lane - maybe some notes could be added to the timetable? A couple of minor bugs noted: 5M13 (Seed) - seeds @ P8 as Cl08 + Mk1 Slep not just Mk1 Slep? 1S55 looks like it would better fit in P4 rather that P3? TIA In Zone 6, no one can hear you scream... Log in to reply |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 09:43 #111253 | |
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postal
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Soton_Speed in post 111251 said:A couple of minor bugs noted:Thanks for the nice words and the attention to the detail in the TT. There are bound to be errors in something of that complexity which has been manually entered and every bit of information that enables an error to be removed helps the realism of the TT. 1) 5M13 will be amended for next release. 2) 1S55 is put into P3 because that is where the station As&Ds puts it. Are you running it through to the shunt signal beyond the platform starter to bring the rear end under signal protection? This is documented in the Manual and in the "Notes" for the train TT. Tom OF will be pushing out a sim update when he gets back in the saddle next week and this will include updates to the 2009 and 1979-80 TTs revised thanks to all the help that Forum readers have given in picking up errors and inconsistencies. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 19/08/2018 at 09:46 by postal Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 10:35 #111254 | |
officer dibble
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58050 in post 111231 said:Dibbs I've got to admit that I'm with John on this one. Over the years of this timetable being created & re-worked he's definitely run this tt hundreds of times & I can't say that T03 pilot has never appeared. That said when I was watching the multi-player session that Kev hosted there was a similar issue regarding 5S07 not appearing when it should have. It turned out that 0T03 going into Colliers Lane sdgs was 20+ minutes late even though 0S07 was standing at Caldew Jn.I am having another go at the TT Pascal/John and this time it seems to have worked correctly, 5T03/5S07 appeared as one would hope. Not sure why it didn't before, probably an issue my end (me!), thanks for the assistance, now back to shunting those vans........ When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A Log in to reply |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 11:42 #111255 | |
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Steamer in post 111244 said:postal in post 111242 said:The easiest way out in those circumstances is to ask 5A26 to ring back in x minutes (and if you haven't got the 0M34 RR move and re-entry of 0M34 sorted by then, to ask 5A26 to ring back in another x minutes). If you ask the train to ring back, it doesn't enter so you can delay it by increments of however many minutes you are offered in the phone call until you are ready to accept it. While the train is being held prior to ringing back, other trains may ring in requesting permission to enter so 0M34 will ring when ready to enter. There is no need to edit the TT for 5A26 and you can easily catch up the time before departure of 1A26 from Carlisle Citadel.Ta, couldn't remember how those types of entry points handled this sort of scenario. This is probably not applicable to that specific train, but I'd like to note that there is a core code bug (#19922) whereby if the entering train is mutually exclusive with some other train, then responding "Call back in ... minutes" will lead to the entering train being cancelled instead. Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: postal |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 11:59 #111256 | |
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postal
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There are a small number of mutually exclusives in the TT but nothing affecting this issue.
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| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 12:01 #111257 | |
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postal
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officer dibble in post 111254 said:I am having another go at the TT Pascal/John and this time it seems to have worked correctly, 5T03/5S07 appeared as one would hope. Not sure why it didn't before, probably an issue my end (me!), thanks for the assistance, now back to shunting those vans........Next release of TT (hopefully in the not too distant future) will have a rule so 0S07 cannot enter until 5T03DMX has entered. Will probably make things a bit less confusing (and every little helps with this TT). “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 12:09 #111258 | |
lazzer
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Well, I've made it to 08.19 on a Wednesday, and I don't think I've managed too badly for a first go. ======= Analysis of your performance and score Trains passing timing points: 1334 total timing points On time: 967 (72%) 2 mins late: 228 (17%) 5 mins late: 91 (7%) Over 5 mins late: 48 (4%) Minutes lost/gained overall: Total minutes lost by you: 175 Total minutes recovered by you: 57 Trains using the correct platforms: 50 occasions Correct: 50 (100%) Opposite: 0 (0%) Incorrect: 0 (0%) Miscellaneous: Total routes cancelled with trains approaching: 5 Total wrong routes set for trains: 0 Total joining moves abandoned: 0 Total trains removed: 0 Total trains shortened: 0 Other points lost: 30 Bonus points: 150 out of a possible 160 (94%) TOTAL SCORE 7744 OUT OF 9270 (84%) ======= Most of those cancelled routes were me accidentally setting up potential Mexican standoffs at Petteril Bridge Junction/London Road Junction between trains going from Carlisle to Low House, and trains coming from Corby Gates/Low House into Carlisle. I think I also managed to set the road for a train coming from Kingmoor Yard on the down, before realising I'd just let a fast passenger train leave Carlisle for Scotland. The other 30 points were lost because I forgot which road (UD1/UD2) a couple of fuelling movements were supposed to go down, and I just winged it and guessed (and got it wrong). The shunter didn't like that ... I have to say that the little "break" you get after 07.00 is most welcome after a night of solid chaos. I now wonder if I can drag my score back over 90% before the end of the day. Log in to reply |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 13:48 #111264 | |
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That's not bad going Neil, I'd be pretty happy with a score like you've got for a first time run. Yes you are correct it does get quieter after 07.00am, so Carlisle on night is a very busy place especially with the addition of the ECML diversions due to the Penmanshiel blockade. The Carlisle A&D book I have for May 1979 - May 1980 is Mr. W.J. Taylors own book as his nbame is written on it & he has written all the details of the diverted ECML trains into the book himself so all of the trains in the timetable are as per the Carlisle A&D book. That said however there is an elephant slowly creeping into the room in the sense of the freight traffic that was actually diverted during the Penmanshiel blockade. Because I don't have any paperwork on that some trunk services have been added & the majority of freight trains between the Sc. R & Carlisle Kingmoor & then via the Tyne Valley route & the S&C are all loaded to maximum in weight for the loco or SLUs for the route. I did it that way as the railway sometimes adds traffic to trains heading towards places that other trains would call at would convey additional traffic if space permitted therefore reducing the number of additional trains required to run. Firthermore I don't have anything (yet) from the Sc.R with details of what they did whilst the Penmanshiel Blockade was done. So for that I can only appologise cuse if we had waited until we had everything to get it 100% accurate it might have taken another 10 years or more before it would have seen the light of day. There is in fact one WTT I don't have for this timetable & that is the 19749-1980 Conditional WTT for freight train services between Carlisle & Glasgow/Edinburgh via the WCML. so as next best we used the only copy we had of that WTT which was a 1977-1978 edition so pretty close. Obviously there will be conflicts as in BR days that happened regularly & that's where regulation comes in which is something I'm keen to promote as back in those days alot of signalboxes didn't just have a signalman working the box, but also a Regulator who told the signalman which trains to run first. Stafford No.4, Bedford North Jn, Leicester North all had regulators in those boxes when they were open to name a few. There was one in Carlisle PSB during this time I'm sure. To those users who like this timetable I'd like to say this. This specific timetable is a one off, there won't be any others done to chain with it as I don't have the the relevant info on the diverted traffic through any other areas of the country. If at some point I obtain info from the Sc.R about the trains they diverted due to Penmanshiel Blockade then possibly a Motherwell tt can be created to chain with this one, but until that time comes this is it. I have said at some point in the future I can do a set of 1981-1982 timetables for Glasgow Central, Motherwell, Carlisle, Preston, Warrington & Crewe, but the night shift at Carlisle won't be as hectic as the one in 1979-1980. Thanks again to all the users out there who like this timetable very much it makes it all worth while for Tom, John, myself & everyone else who was involved with the production of this tt. Log in to reply The following users said thank you: postal, whitetigger |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 14:57 #111268 | |
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lazzer
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58050 in post 111264 said:Obviously there will be conflicts as in BR days that happened regularly & that's where regulation comes in which is something I'm keen to promote as back in those days alot of signalboxes didn't just have a signalman working the box, but also a Regulator who told the signalman which trains to run first. Stafford No.4, Bedford North Jn, Leicester North all had regulators in those boxes when they were open to name a few. There was one in Carlisle PSB during this time I'm sure..A general rule of thumb I use is that class 1 and 2 trains take priority over anything else (although some diverted ones may be held if there's other class 1s about that can go in front of them), class 5 takes priority over all freight, and then the freight is usually ad-hoc, but with class 9 and trip workings taking the lowest priority. Having said that, if I've got a shunting loco running a bit late, and to delay it would mean a knock-on effect to a tight class 1 departure (because it's got some carriages for it), AND if it needs to cross a busy junction - it will go ahead of any freight movements, and block the junction. Something has to wait for something, after all. I think I've just managed to work it out, but you'll notice I've already lost a lot of time that I'm just never going to get back now. Log in to reply |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 15:45 #111271 | |
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Yes Neil I'm pretty much the same as you as afr as regulation goes. The other thing I tends to do is let freights run early & then stick them in a loop somewhere to allow Cl.1s to pass. I can't ever see anyone actually getting 100% score with this timetable whether they played it on there own or with 3 people. Butcertainly a score in the 80%+ range is nothing to be ashamed about. This timetable is probably one of the most difficult to play, it may not have as many trains as London Bridge, but there is far more shunt moves in & around carlisle station & to all the associated yards & sgs to eep you active & the loco movements in & out of Kingmoor Yard. You might well increase your score towards the 90% mark as you've passed the busy bit. Good luck with it Neil.
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| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 16:08 #111273 | |
Dick
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Have to add my thanks to all concerned with this sim and fascinating timetable, alll tghe shunts do need careful thinking about. Not quite as good as lazzer but not too far behind at 8.35 sim time. Analysis of your performance and score Trains passing timing points: 1443 total timing points On time: 929 (64%) 2 mins late: 270 (19%) 5 mins late: 158 (11%) Over 5 mins late: 86 (6%) Minutes lost/gained overall: Total minutes lost by you: 361 Total minutes recovered by you: 98 Trains using the correct platforms: 52 occasions Correct: 49 (94%) Opposite: 0 (0%) Incorrect: 3 (6%) Miscellaneous: Total routes cancelled with trains approaching: 5 Total wrong routes set for trains: 5 Total joining moves abandoned: 0 Total trains removed: 0 Total trains shortened: 0 Other points lost: 72 Bonus points: 130 out of a possible 160 (81%) TOTAL SCORE 7535 OUT OF 9919 (76%) Log in to reply |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 16:18 #111274 | |
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postal
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I know I can speak for Pascal as well as myself on this one. The creation and testing doesn't seem like hard work when we see the obvious entertainment and enjoyment people are getting from facing up to the challenge of running this timetable. Thank you from both of us for the nice things that have been said. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 19/08/2018 at 16:19 by postal Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: 58050 |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 16:32 #111275 | |
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lazzer
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58050 in post 111271 said:Yes Neil I'm pretty much the same as you as afr as regulation goes. The other thing I tends to do is let freights run early & then stick them in a loop somewhere to allow Cl.1s to pass. I can't ever see anyone actually getting 100% score with this timetable whether they played it on there own or with 3 people. Butcertainly a score in the 80%+ range is nothing to be ashamed about. This timetable is probably one of the most difficult to play, it may not have as many trains as London Bridge, but there is far more shunt moves in & around carlisle station & to all the associated yards & sgs to eep you active & the loco movements in & out of Kingmoor Yard. You might well increase your score towards the 90% mark as you've passed the busy bit. Good luck with it Neil.I've been thinking about letting freight run early and looping them, yes. In fact I did it with a couple of overnight class 4s. Log in to reply |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 19/08/2018 at 16:43 #111276 | |
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Yes I'd echo John's words there & I'd like to think I can create something equally as good if not better in the futire. There are a few timetables I've already written for devlopers & as yet no one has seen those because the sims haven't been released yet. Some far more challenging than others subject to the sim location & traffic flows through that sim. there will be some timetables released shortly that I've been working on for a number of years such as Wimbledon 1981-1982(which Lagertoe kindly took over due to the amount of work I already have for SimSIg) & my LTS 1994 timetable. I have started work on Cardiff 1988 timetable which maybe as difficult as this Carlisle 1979-1980 timetable, the proof will be in the testing of it. I do like this timetable very much & I can't run any faster than 1:1.3 on the speed before you start getting caught out here, there & everywhere. For me I'm not interested in being a devloper, sims look good when they are done, but it's the timetable that runs on them that brings them to life. With all my railway experience & the amount of BR paperwork & publications over the years I've collected I decided to write timetables cos I thought I could probably do it better than most regarding the BR era. There are no generic trains in any of my timetables they are all calculated to the nearest metre subject to what the freight train loads books state for whatever traction is used so that when trains run through they all take different amounts of time to clear TCs due to their individual length(except Speedlink o Merchandise trains). But alot of thanks need to go to John cos when he's testing he only runs the sim at REAL TIME. So imagine how many hours sitting in front of the PC running the same timetable over & over againa full run through would take 3 or 4 days. So the fact that this complex tt runs o good is really down to his endurance & patience of testing. I hope the future timetables releases you'll get to run are of the same quality & standard of this one & the other thing I'd like to see because of this release is for a bigger demand from users for BR era timetables to be created for when sims get released in future. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: BarryM |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 20/08/2018 at 10:51 #111290 | |
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lazzer
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Am I right in thinking that 0S19E (ex 4S19EMX, arr Carlisle 12.28) is timetabled to run into the Wall Siding at 12.34 and then just remain there, with no more timetabled trips? Or is this a mistake, and it should become something else when it arrives in the siding?
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| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 20/08/2018 at 11:22 #111291 | |
jc92
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lazzer in post 111290 said:Am I right in thinking that 0S19E (ex 4S19EMX, arr Carlisle 12.28) is timetabled to run into the Wall Siding at 12.34 and then just remain there, with no more timetabled trips? Or is this a mistake, and it should become something else when it arrives in the siding?Is it meant to form the LE that seeds there at timetable start for the next day? "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 20/08/2018 at 12:35 #111293 | |
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jc92 in post 111291 said:lazzer in post 111290 said:Indeed so. There are pictures of the Wall Sdg in various eras with loco(s) stabled there so I followed that line of thought.Am I right in thinking that 0S19E (ex 4S19EMX, arr Carlisle 12.28) is timetabled to run into the Wall Siding at 12.34 and then just remain there, with no more timetabled trips? Or is this a mistake, and it should become something else when it arrives in the siding?Is it meant to form the LE that seeds there at timetable start for the next day? “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply The following user said thank you: RainbowNines |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 20/08/2018 at 13:18 #111296 | |
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slatteryc
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Superb - a successor to the already brilliant non-loader version. Well done all. 0100 to 0500 passes in minutes it seems like ! The reuse of 0T01 codes /5t01s makes it really hard to keep up with stuff but I have my head around it now. I suggest a note to be added to the manual that Upperby runround GF will only be usable once the overlaps drop out; that annoyed me no end until patience occurred ! up to 0621 and a score of 70% if you dont think ahead your toast on this sim . Also if you get the pilots wrong its very hard to walk back from that it is savagely unforgiving Log in to reply The following user said thank you: postal |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 20/08/2018 at 13:47 #111298 | |
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slatteryc in post 111296 said:Superb - a successor to the already brilliant non-loader version. Well done all. 0100 to 0500 passes in minutes it seems like !Glad you enjoy the challenge, that's the main thing. Yes I've mentioned this before that if you get the shunt pilots the wrong way round it's pretty much game over as there is very little room to recover. All the station pilots have their own booked work to do as they operate at different times according to the trip notice info. As a result you can't exactly add the work another pilot is booked to do in SimSig to cover one that is late etc. In real life a quick phone call would sort that out, but it's not that straight forward on SimSig. When I furst started running this timetable during a test session on my own I managed to get to approx. 0200 & ended missing something & I had to start again & slow the sim down a notch. But the more times you run it the more things you remember & then it doesn't seem quite so daunting compared to the 1st time you try it. 0% isn't bad going either for a first attempt I'm sure your score will increase after 07.00am when things quieten down a bit. Log in to reply |
| Carlisle 1979-1980 Timetable 20/08/2018 at 19:37 #111312 | |
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slatteryc in post 111296 said:up to 0621 and a score of 70% if you dont think ahead your toast on this sim . Also if you get the pilots wrong its very hard to walk back from that it is savagely unforgivingIn all the testing I've never dared run it without an autosave every 10 minutes so I don't have too far to go back to have another try without the mistakes! “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |