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LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 05/10/2018 at 09:34 #112469 | |
58050
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jc92 in post 112468 said:58050 in post 112418 said:Andrew G in post 112415 said:Definetely 5B02 forming 2B02. I've got it in sim in front of me now. I ran it in front of the class 2 rather than behind it.A couple of observations: Don't you mean 5B07? 5B02 enters around 05.40 & runs ECS from East Ham EMUD to Southend Central P1 & sits there as the stand by unit until after the morning peak before it returns to East Ham empty stock. I presume you are running without ARS which is fine for approx. another hour or 2 then forget it as you'll have 30+ trains on the panel & it gets pretty manic. I'm at 14.15 atm & it's fairly easy going apart from dealing with the freights. Last edited: 05/10/2018 at 10:31 by 58050 Reason: typo crrection Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 05/10/2018 at 12:57 #112475 | |
chrisdmadd
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im not sure if im doing something wrong but i cant get 5B07 to get departure release from shoeburyness depot. Its stuck there now. I also find it frustrating that the headcodes are duplicated for trains in the sim at the same time such as 5R03 would these have not had different headcodes?! Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 05/10/2018 at 13:00 #112476 | |
jc92
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chrisdmadd in post 112475 said:im not sure if im doing something wrong but i cant get 5B07 to get departure release from shoeburyness depot. Its stuck there now. Not in 1995. The line was still controlled by multiple boxes until 1996 so duplication wouldn't have been an issue. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 05/10/2018 at 13:02 #112477 | |
chrisdmadd
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i see, just seems a bit odd. E.G. If 5B07 fails i would have thought its headcode would be enough to identify where it was!
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LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 05/10/2018 at 13:02 #112478 | |
58050
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Can't say I've ever had that problem with 5B07 as you describe, but why not re-load the sim at the nearest snapshot to when 5B07 enters & set the sim up for ARS to deal with it & see if that works. With regards to the train headcodes they are all as per the WTT. That said I suppose I could alter the TDs so there aren't anymore duplicates certainly for the Cl.5s anyway. Will sort those out for the next release. Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 05/10/2018 at 14:00 #112479 | |
kbarber
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jc92 in post 112476 said:chrisdmadd in post 112475 said:Did they not still have the old four-number headcodes (unique to the LTS I think) until UR took over?im not sure if im doing something wrong but i cant get 5B07 to get departure release from shoeburyness depot. Its stuck there now. Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 05/10/2018 at 18:41 #112481 | |
Phil-jmw
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58050 in post 112469 said:jc92 in post 112468 said:I try and run with no ARS wherever possible Pascal. I'm only up to the small hours running V2.1, are you saying ARS is a must by breakfast time? If so I'll restart with ARS enabled before I go any further into the morning.58050 in post 112418 said:Andrew G in post 112415 said:Definetely 5B02 forming 2B02. I've got it in sim in front of me now. I ran it in front of the class 2 rather than behind it.A couple of observations: Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 05/10/2018 at 19:36 #112482 | |
headshot119
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Did you save between the TD being interposed and the train never appearing?
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LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 05/10/2018 at 20:39 #112483 | |
58050
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Phil-jmw in post 112481 said:58050 in post 112469 said:jc92 in post 112468 said:I try and run with no ARS wherever possible Pascal. I'm only up to the small hours running V2.1, are you saying ARS is a must by breakfast time? If so I'll restart with ARS enabled before I go any further into the morning.58050 in post 112418 said:Andrew G in post 112415 said:Definetely 5B02 forming 2B02. I've got it in sim in front of me now. I ran it in front of the class 2 rather than behind it.A couple of observations: Phil keep going as best you can, things start getting busy around 05.30. I know during the evening peak as I'm up to 19.00 I had 39 trains on the panel. Last edited: 05/10/2018 at 20:41 by 58050 Reason: added text as original post text missing Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 06/10/2018 at 01:33 #112485 | |
Phil-jmw
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58050 in post 112483 said:Phil-jmw in post 112481 said:Ok Pascal, I'll have a stab at it and see how I get on.58050 in post 112469 said:jc92 in post 112468 said:I try and run with no ARS wherever possible Pascal. I'm only up to the small hours running V2.1, are you saying ARS is a must by breakfast time? If so I'll restart with ARS enabled before I go any further into the morning.58050 in post 112418 said:Andrew G in post 112415 said:Definetely 5B02 forming 2B02. I've got it in sim in front of me now. I ran it in front of the class 2 rather than behind it.A couple of observations: Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 18/10/2018 at 09:01 #112723 | |
ajax103
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I've got a issue in which 5R03 has appeared twice at Shoeburyness CSD; the first one to appear was the 8 car Class 302 which was signalled into Platform 3 as booked now I have 5R03 forming the exact same service booked into the exact same platform but using 8 car Class 310 stock! I've checked the timetable to see if there were any rules so if one appeared the other wouldn't but there doesn't seem to be any such rule. Now I know about duplicating headcodes but when it's the same headcode, same location, forms same outbound service then something is wrong. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 18/10/2018 at 09:25 #112724 | |
postal
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ajax103 in post 112723 said:I've checked the timetable to see if there were any rules so if one appeared the other wouldn't but there doesn't seem to be any such rule.Have you checked the decisions as well as the rules? Some TT writers now use decisions rather than rules for situations like forcing one of a selection of trains to enter. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 18/10/2018 at 09:55 #112725 | |
ajax103
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postal in post 112724 said:ajax103 in post 112723 said:The only decisions that I can see is preference for Class 302 and Class 305 to enter the sim if that helps?I've checked the timetable to see if there were any rules so if one appeared the other wouldn't but there doesn't seem to be any such rule.Have you checked the decisions as well as the rules? Some TT writers now use decisions rather than rules for situations like forcing one of a selection of trains to enter. Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 18/10/2018 at 10:45 #112726 | |
58050
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I'll have a look in a bit, currently updating the Peterborough 1985-1986 timetable. But one thing I have noticed is that on occasions the tt data doesn't save even when you've told it to save & as a result if you look at each of the 5(one for each EMU class) I bet the Cl.302 appears twice whereas each of the 5 sets of 5R03 there should be 1 train for each of the EMU classes. This has happened on more than one occasion. You should see one schedule for Cl.302. Cl.305. Cl.308, Cl.310 & Cl.312. All you need to do is to replace the Cl.302 on one of them to the unit class that is missing.
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LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 18/10/2018 at 22:02 #112735 | |
postal
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58050 in post 112726 said:I have noticed is that on occasions the tt data doesn't save even when you've told it to savePascal Is it possible that you have saved the TT then closed down the sim without saving the game. If you do that then reload the saved game the data you have updated will not show because the sim uploads the TT that was in the sim when you last saved it, not the copy of the TT you have saved to the hard disk before you closed it? If you then save the TT from the reload, you have lost the edits for ever. If you load a saved game and think that the TT has lost data you can check by closing the sim then starting a new game using the same TT. If the edits are in the new game but not the reloaded game, then the way that you have saved the TT and the game has got out of sync. If you want to continue with the saved game rather than starting again from scratch you have to re-do the edits. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 18/10/2018 at 22:42 #112736 | |
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As I have always understood it when you save a game a copy of the TT is included in the save, any changes made to the in game timetable are included in the save and when you reload the save the changes are still there, even if you did not save the timetable seperatly. If reloading a save game you don't acctually need the WTT in the timetable folder. The attached save game has changes in it that I know are not in the offical 08/05/2015 release TT, I loaded the sim put in the changes, saved the game and then exited the sim and did not save the timetable, then I removed the timetables out of the timetable folder and loaded the save game and the changes I made are still there. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 19/10/2018 at 00:24 #112737 | |
postal
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MarkC in post 112736 said:As I have always understood it when you save a game a copy of the TT is included in the save, any changes made to the in game timetable are included in the save and when you reload the save the changes are still there, even if you did not save the timetable seperatly.Mark That's the point; if you save the TT but then don't save the game, when you do re-start you are using a save from before the edit so the TT in sim is the unedited version. The edited version is only in the TT saved to disk. You can then only run with the edited TT by starting a new game from scratch. If you reload from your last saved game then save the TT, that overwrites the different TT on your disk and you have lost your edits. Unless you save both TT and game after any editing, the TT versions are out of sync. That is what prompted this thread started less than a week ago. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 19/10/2018 at 00:27 by postal Reason: None given Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 20/10/2018 at 14:05 #112757 | |
58050
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ajax103 in post 112723 said:I've got a issue in which 5R03 has appeared twice at Shoeburyness CSD; the first one to appear was the 8 car Class 302 which was signalled into Platform 3 as booked now I have 5R03 forming the exact same service booked into the exact same platform but using 8 car Class 310 stock! I've looked at the timetable & just as I suspected which has been a problem saving the timetable data & then discovering the tt data didn't save the reason 5R03 entered twice was because the 5R03 decision had 2 trains showing the Cl.302 option where in fact one of those trains should have read Cl.310. I've fixed it for V2.2 released, but all you have to do is go into F4, select the timetable tab & scroll all the way down to 5R03 which enters from Shoeburyness CSD & goes into P3 at 05.05. Select the first one & change the decision choice from Cl.302 to Cl.310. Then save the tt. You check the others as there should be 5 in total one for each type of unit. Two trains entered because the decision chose Cl.302 & because there were 2 of them the train entered twice. Had the decision on this occasion chosen another type of unit this issue wouldn't have shown itself, so thanks for that well spotted. Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 31/08/2019 at 11:17 #120270 | |
ajax103
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For some reason 5R09 appears five times from East Ham EMUD to Fenchurch Street, this train is diagrammed as either a Class 305, Class 308, Class 3102 or a Class 312. The train at fault is 6+10 EWD ECS East Ham EMUD - London Fenchurch St. I can see one of the two Class 312 diagrammed services that appear are just arriving at Platform 2 at Fenchurch Street however this particular service then seems to transform into a Class 310 for it's next working.... I'm aware that you are busy Pascal but could you have a look at this one please? ![]() ![]() Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 31/08/2019 at 20:45 #120280 | |
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ajax103 in post 120270 said:For some reason 5R09 appears five times from East Ham EMUD to Fenchurch Street, this train is diagrammed as either a Class 305, Class 308, Class 3102 or a Class 312.really simple issue here. all five variants have Cl.302 as their decision choice so all 5 appear and Cl.302 will always be chosen. I'll make Pascal aware for any future update. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 10/09/2019 at 15:45 #120347 | |
58050
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If the problem with 5R09 iws the fact that the train type is Cl.302 for all 5 thiss is why it appears 5 times if Cl.302 is chosen. What it should read is one train should be Cl.302, the next one should read Cl.305, the next one should read Cl.308, the next one should read Cl.310 & the last one should read Cl.312. So in effect any of the 5 different types of EMU classes running on the LTS at this time could appear. I'll take a look at this later today & fix it, then re-submit the tt for moderator approval. All of the platform allocations at Fenchurch St., Shoeburyness, Upminster, Pitsea & Laindon are as per the WTT the timetable is based on as the platform numbers are printed in it. So there shouldn't be any platform clashes. Obviously at some stations trains running a couple of mins early may have to wait outside until a booked departure has left & provided a clear platform. Something which is prototypical on the LTS.
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LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 11/09/2019 at 17:01 #120354 | |
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I've just submitted the latest version of the LTS 1994-1995 timetable V2.3 for moderator approval. I've also added some splash screens of photos I took at Ripple Lane during the late 1980s & early 1990s as I couldn't remember if I'd uploaded them before. The decision regarding 5R09 has now been fixed & the 5 options now have the correct EMU type allocated to each variation so now 5R09 should only enter the once.
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LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 13/09/2019 at 17:34 #120383 | |
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V2.3of the LTS 1994-1995 timetable has now been approved by moderator & is now available in the downloads section. This version has now got the corrected decision types allocated to the 5 variants which should stop 5R09 entering East Ham EMUD 5 times.
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LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 09/05/2020 at 21:41 #126668 | |
TUT
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I've recently started playing this incredible masterpiece of a timetable and it's clearly an amazing piece of work, but I am having a little bit of a problem with FLTP. My game is a Wednesday game and I've got 4L50 sitting down in Ripple Lane West Sorting Sidings 3. It's already divided and the front half has already arrived in Seabrook Sidings. The second half is awaiting FLTP/FLTPMX which is supposed to enter Ripple Lane Freightliner Terminal at 05:20. It's almost 05:25 and there's no sign of it yet. I can't see any relevant rules or decisions that would prevent it from entering and I have already got a train out of the Freightliner Terminal without a problem, but this loco doesn't seem to want to enter and without it 4L50 is going nowhere. I wonder if anybody else has come across this? Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
LTS 1994 - 1995 Timetable 09/05/2020 at 22:57 #126673 | |
TUT
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TUT in post 126668 said:I've recently started playing this incredible masterpiece of a timetable and it's clearly an amazing piece of work, but I am having a little bit of a problem with FLTP.I think I've found the problem, the timetable was missing an entry point, giving it entry point Up Freightliner Terminal caused an immediate phone call. Log in to reply |