1991 timetable

Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.

jc92 in post 122167 said:

Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.

Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?

lazzer in post 122169 said:

jc92 in post 122167 said:

Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.

Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?

there's no crossover to facilitate it running into Milford west sidings from GW.

lazzer in post 122169 said:

[quote=jc92;post=122167]Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.

Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?

jc92 in post 122170 said:

lazzer in post 122169 said:

[quote=jc92;post=122167]Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.

Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?

If the train was very early enough to likely cause delays to following trains, I suppose one could run it in behind 5235 at Milford Junction and reverse it back into the sidings. I know that would involve abandoning timetables and reversing, but it's what I think I would do if I needed to get one out of the way and there was a spare through siding.

lazzer in post 122185 said:

jc92 in post 122170 said:

lazzer in post 122169 said:

[quote=jc92;post=122167]Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.

Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?

If the train was very early enough to likely cause delays to following trains, I suppose one could run it in behind 5235 at Milford Junction and reverse it back into the sidings. I know that would involve abandoning timetables and reversing, but it's what I think I would do if I needed to get one out of the way and there was a spare through siding.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of doing.

I also had one that was almost 2 hours early for a crew change at Castleford, but luckily nothing came up behind it for that entire time so I parked it on the station approach until the crew was ready (of course, in hindsight if I'd been paying attention I would've parked it in the Goods Loop).

swiftaw in post 122187 said:

lazzer in post 122185 said:

jc92 in post 122170 said:

lazzer in post 122169 said:

[quote=jc92;post=122167]Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.

Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?

If the train was very early enough to likely cause delays to following trains, I suppose one could run it in behind 5235 at Milford Junction and reverse it back into the sidings. I know that would involve abandoning timetables and reversing, but it's what I think I would do if I needed to get one out of the way and there was a spare through siding.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of doing.

I also had one that was almost 2 hours early for a crew change at Castleford, but luckily nothing came up behind it for that entire time so I parked it on the station approach until the crew was ready (of course, in hindsight if I'd been paying attention I would've parked it in the Goods Loop).

I'd be interested in knowing what train that was which required a crew change change 2 hours early. Next time could you make a note of the train ID & the time it entered please so I can check the master timetable.

58050 in post 122216 said:

swiftaw in post 122187 said:

lazzer in post 122185 said:

jc92 in post 122170 said:

lazzer in post 122169 said:

[quote=jc92;post=122167]Currently there isn't really anything you can do in all honesty. You can try holding it at milford jcn but you're likely to delay further trains coming from GW and there's no way in the TT editor to prevent early entry. There's the always enter on time option but then the train will never run late either.

Would the train call wrong route if you were to send it into the through sidings at GW, and hold it there?

If the train was very early enough to likely cause delays to following trains, I suppose one could run it in behind 5235 at Milford Junction and reverse it back into the sidings. I know that would involve abandoning timetables and reversing, but it's what I think I would do if I needed to get one out of the way and there was a spare through siding.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of doing.

I also had one that was almost 2 hours early for a crew change at Castleford, but luckily nothing came up behind it for that entire time so I parked it on the station approach until the crew was ready (of course, in hindsight if I'd been paying attention I would've parked it in the Goods Loop).

it's most important for users plaing this timetable to read the timetable data for every train, so you can make a note note of the route it is booked to go as well as if it is booked to recess anywhere en route. This is likely to impact on the return working as some trains are governed by rules in minutes which govern when the return working enters. This timrtable is NOT straightforward by any means. Incidentally Kev & I started a Thursday run through of this timetableearlier in the week just to make sure all is in order with the recent amendments.

I'd be interested in knowing what train that was which required a crew change change 2 hours early. Next time could you make a note of the train ID & the time it entered please so I can check the master timetable.

It was 6M64, and I realized it was my mistake. It is supposed to spend 2 hours in the Milford Loop before heading to Castleford for the crew change. I completely overlooked that and sent it straight to Castleford.

I'm working my way through a Friday timetable and I've run into an issue. At around 16:00 0M06 comes out of Knottingley TMD to head to Milford Yard 11 to join 7K46. However there is no 7K46 in the yard, and when I look at the timetable entires, all the 7K46's in the list are FX.

Now, there is a 6K46 in the yard, but that shows no timetable.

Looks like the TT failed to step up past Monk Bretton Loop and Royston Jn. (Where is Royston Jn?)

7K85 (EDIT: talking about 7K850310) and 7K900345 is calling at Knottingley without a crew change while other nightly trains to Drax do change their crew there; is this deliberate or is the crew change missing?

Albert in post 135967 said:

7K85 (EDIT: talking about 7K850310) and 7K900345 is calling at Knottingley without a crew change while other nightly trains to Drax do change their crew there; is this deliberate or is the crew change missing?

The MGR coal plan used for this TT doesn't reflect any reason for the stop, except that it does. Those trains shown to have a crew change are all marked accordi8ngly. Some trains stop o pick up the travelling shunter which is what generally happens when booked to stop for a minute.

It doesn't take as long though, a full crew change is ~2 minutes in SimSig while picking up the shunter probably needs just some seconds assuming the stopping position matches where the shunter is standing.

By the way, I had a train wanting to stop after passing the platform starter yesterday (probably a near end stop - aligning the tail rather than the head) but I haven't yet figured out whether that was because it was missing a far end position or because I used the opposite platform at Knottingley. I believe it was a 7K92, but will look it up for you tonight or tomorrow and compare its TT to that of other trains to see whether this was caused by the sim or the TT.