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| Platform Share 14/06/2019 at 11:34 #118968 | |
BarryM
2158 posts |
Why does not ARS execute Platform Share at P3? PS works fine NON - ARS!
Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Last edited: 14/06/2019 at 11:36 by BarryM Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Platform Share 14/06/2019 at 12:14 #118969 | |
headshot119
4869 posts |
Which trains are involved? What timetable are involved? Is there a save game available?
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Platform Share 14/06/2019 at 16:35 #118975 | |
GeoffM
6376 posts |
Yes, no information provided so impossible to answer.
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| Platform Share 15/06/2019 at 22:19 #119008 | |
Simdmuk
155 posts |
Ive been running the Sheffield SX 09 01 2019 0000 start TT on ARS and have found each train which have booked platform shares in P3 or 4 require a manual intervention. Another oddity Ive found in this timetable is trains that come from Barrow Hill Roundhouse enter from the roundhouse ,reverse on the Dn Goods Loop, get as far as the North junction passing sig 247 then just stop over the junction. The driver then rings asking to proceed back to the Dn Goods loop !The trains dont seem to make it as far as sig 1020 to reverse onto the Up Main. Log in to reply |
| Platform Share 16/06/2019 at 03:07 #119011 | |
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BarryM
2158 posts |
headshot119 in post 118969 said:Which trains are involved? What timetable are involved? Is there a save game available? OOps Sorry My humble apologies. Sheffield SX 08 04 2015 0000 start Saved file 07:00 attached Trains 2P35 and 2L12 P3. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Last edited: 16/06/2019 at 03:09 by BarryM Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Platform Share 16/06/2019 at 03:22 #119012 | |
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BarryM
2158 posts |
Sorry Boss! I got distracted. Alzheimer's setting in.
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| Platform Share 17/06/2019 at 13:54 #119023 | |
Edgemaster
332 posts |
Simdmuk in post 119008 said:Another oddity Ive found in this timetable is trains that come from Barrow Hill Roundhouse enter from the roundhouse ,reverse on the Dn Goods Loop, get as far as the North junction passing sig 247 then just stop over the junction. The driver then rings asking to proceed back to the Dn Goods loop !The trains dont seem to make it as far as sig 1020 to reverse onto the Up Main.Could you confirm which train headcodes and timetable start time that this impacts? There were a few missing the sig 1020 reversing points in the first released version of the timetable, but I thought they had been fixed with the released timetable version 1.1. Log in to reply |
| Platform Share 17/06/2019 at 22:29 #119032 | |
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Simdmuk
155 posts |
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| Platform Share 17/06/2019 at 22:32 #119033 | |
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Simdmuk
155 posts |
Edgemaster in post 119023 said:Could you confirm which train headcodes and timetable start time that this impacts? There were a few missing the sig 1020 reversing points in the first released version of the timetable, but I thought they had been fixed with the released timetable version 1.1.6M24,0Z20,0M38,0Z88 and 5E07 from what I recall. The timetable start time is 0000 start. I have noted that the version number on the text states Ver 1.0 not 1.1 Log in to reply |
| Platform Share 17/06/2019 at 22:34 #119034 | |
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headshot119
4869 posts |
Simdmuk in post 119033 said:Edgemaster in post 119023 said:Both the 2015 and 2019 TTs for Sheffield (ROC) are at V1.1. If you don't have these you need to run the updater.Could you confirm which train headcodes and timetable start time that this impacts? There were a few missing the sig 1020 reversing points in the first released version of the timetable, but I thought they had been fixed with the released timetable version 1.1.6M24,0Z20,0M38,0Z88 and 5E07 from what I recall. The timetable start time is 0000 start. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Platform Share 18/06/2019 at 00:24 #119035 | |
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Simdmuk
155 posts |
headshot119 in post 119034 said:Simdmuk in post 119033 said:I run the loader/updater regularly and it shows everything as updated.However I did start this timetable some time ago ,so the saved sim must have been with the earlier version. Starting a new sim does come up with ver 1.1Edgemaster in post 119023 said:Both the 2015 and 2019 TTs for Sheffield (ROC) are at V1.1. If you don't have these you need to run the updater.Could you confirm which train headcodes and timetable start time that this impacts? There were a few missing the sig 1020 reversing points in the first released version of the timetable, but I thought they had been fixed with the released timetable version 1.1.6M24,0Z20,0M38,0Z88 and 5E07 from what I recall. The timetable start time is 0000 start. Log in to reply |
| Platform Share 18/06/2019 at 01:22 #119036 | |
postal
5263 posts |
Simdmuk in post 119035 said:I run the loader/updater regularly and it shows everything as updated.However I did start this timetable some time ago ,so the saved sim must have been with the earlier version. Starting a new sim does come up with ver 1.1Whenever you start a new run the TT you select is locked in and saved with every save of the game; it doesn't pick up the latest version of the TT from your hard disk when you load a previously saved game. It can give rise to problems if you edit the TT. For example, suppose you edit the TT at 00:15, save the edited TT then reload a saved game from 00:10. That game was saved before you edited the TT so you are back to the unedited TT. If you save the TT at that point, you over-write the TT saved with your edits and your edits are lost. I lost lots and lots of edits and hours of inputting work until I got my head round that. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Platform Share 18/06/2019 at 19:58 #119041 | |
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Simdmuk
155 posts |
postal in post 119036 said:Whenever you start a new run the TT you select is locked in and saved with every save of the game; it doesn't pick up the latest version of the TT from your hard disk when you load a previously saved game. It can give rise to problems if you edit the TT. For example, suppose you edit the TT at 00:15, save the edited TT then reload a saved game from 00:10. That game was saved before you edited the TT so you are back to the unedited TT. If you save the TT at that point, you over-write the TT saved with your edits and your edits are lost. I lost lots and lots of edits and hours of inputting work until I got my head round that.[/quote] Indeed,I forgot that I had started this a while ago.The trouble is that I dont often have the time to run timetables fully,so dip into them now and again.You then update and when I do get around to carry on ,forget that the saved game was probably one or two versions old ! Log in to reply |
| Platform Share 04/07/2019 at 22:14 #119268 | |
Mikehax
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Simdmuk in post 119008 said:Ive been running the Sheffield SX 09 01 2019 0000 start TT on ARS and have found each train which have booked platform shares in P3 or 4 require a manual intervention.As a signaller who works this workstation, I can confirm that this is exactly what happens in the real world. ARS will NOT signal another train onto an occupied platform requiring the signaller to call the route required for the POSA to clear. Log in to reply |
| Platform Share 05/07/2019 at 10:33 #119270 | |
Late Turn
699 posts |
Mikehax in post 119268 said:Simdmuk in post 119008 said:Ive been running the Sheffield SX 09 01 2019 0000 start TT on ARS and have found each train which have booked platform shares in P3 or 4 require a manual intervention.As a signaller who works this workstation, I can confirm that this is exactly what happens in the real world. ARS will NOT signal another train onto an occupied platform requiring the signaller to call the route required for the POSA to clear. POSA? Not here, surely? Log in to reply |
| Platform Share 05/07/2019 at 15:06 #119275 | |
bugsy
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Mikehax in post 119268 said:Simdmuk in post 119008 said:Would one of you 'professionals' please expain to a mere mortal, what 'POSA' means. I may have come acroos this before, but even if I did, I can't remember.Ive been running the Sheffield SX 09 01 2019 0000 start TT on ARS and have found each train which have booked platform shares in P3 or 4 require a manual intervention.As a signaller who works this workstation, I can confirm that this is exactly what happens in the real world. ARS will NOT signal another train onto an occupied platform requiring the signaller to call the route required for the POSA to clear. Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Log in to reply |
| Platform Share 05/07/2019 at 15:15 #119276 | |
jc92
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bugsy in post 119275 said:Mikehax in post 119268 said:Proceed on sight authority. Where the route is set safely but not clear. The new Thameslink signalling has them but I'm not sure where else has them.Simdmuk in post 119008 said:Would one of you 'professionals' please expain to a mere mortal, what 'POSA' means. I may have come acroos this before, but even if I did, I can't remember.Ive been running the Sheffield SX 09 01 2019 0000 start TT on ARS and have found each train which have booked platform shares in P3 or 4 require a manual intervention.As a signaller who works this workstation, I can confirm that this is exactly what happens in the real world. ARS will NOT signal another train onto an occupied platform requiring the signaller to call the route required for the POSA to clear. Regarding the real thing not doing this that would be correct but if full ARS is selected it should route platform shares. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: bugsy |
| Platform Share 05/07/2019 at 16:51 #119278 | |
Steamer
3984 posts |
jc92 in post 119276 said:bugsy in post 119275 said:The aspect given to a driver is a flashing version of the standard shunt/subsidiary signal showing 'proceed'.Mikehax in post 119268 said:Proceed on sight authority. Where the route is set safely but not clear. The new Thameslink signalling has them but I'm not sure where else has them.Simdmuk in post 119008 said:Would one of you 'professionals' please expain to a mere mortal, what 'POSA' means. I may have come acroos this before, but even if I did, I can't remember.Ive been running the Sheffield SX 09 01 2019 0000 start TT on ARS and have found each train which have booked platform shares in P3 or 4 require a manual intervention.As a signaller who works this workstation, I can confirm that this is exactly what happens in the real world. ARS will NOT signal another train onto an occupied platform requiring the signaller to call the route required for the POSA to clear. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply The following user said thank you: bugsy |
| Platform Share 05/07/2019 at 19:57 #119282 | |
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Mikehax
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Late Turn in post 119270 said:Mikehax in post 119268 said:Sorry, should have read for the SUB to clear.Simdmuk in post 119008 said:Ive been running the Sheffield SX 09 01 2019 0000 start TT on ARS and have found each train which have booked platform shares in P3 or 4 require a manual intervention.As a signaller who works this workstation, I can confirm that this is exactly what happens in the real world. ARS will NOT signal another train onto an occupied platform requiring the signaller to call the route required for the POSA to clear. Log in to reply |