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| RAIB Carstairs 22 December 2009 11/01/2010 at 11:53 #517 | |
BarryM
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From RAIB The RAIB is carrying out an investigation into a near-miss event involving a freight train and two passenger trains at Carstairs, South Lanarkshire. This occurred at around 20:20 hrs on 22 December 2009 when the freight train, 4L81, the 19:21 hrs service from Coatbridge to Tilbury, passed two red signals in succession as it approached Carstairs on the Up Main line. The train passed through Carstairs station and came to a stand around two miles after it had started to brake. An initial review of the evidence suggests that the braking performance of the train was below that expected of a train of its type. As freight train 4L81 approached Carstairs, passenger train 1S17, the 13:00 hrs service from Kings Cross to Glasgow Central, was being routed across the Up Main line at the south end of the station. This passed clear of the junction less than two minutes before the arrival of the freight train. Actions by the signaller had averted the potential for a derailment or collision between freight train 4L81 and a second passenger train that was also approaching Carstairs, from the direction of Edinburgh. The weather at the time was poor, with heavy falling snow and freezing temperatures. The RAIB's preliminary examination has identified no evidence that the operation or condition of the railway signalling system contributed to the incident. The RAIB’s investigation is independent of any investigations by the safety authority. The RAIB will publish a report, including any recommendations to improve safety, at the conclusion of its investigation. This report will be available on the RAIB website. You can subscribe to automated emails notifying you when the RAIB publishes its reports. Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| RAIB Carstairs 22 December 2009 11/01/2010 at 11:53 #5719 | |
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BarryM
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From RAIB The RAIB is carrying out an investigation into a near-miss event involving a freight train and two passenger trains at Carstairs, South Lanarkshire. This occurred at around 20:20 hrs on 22 December 2009 when the freight train, 4L81, the 19:21 hrs service from Coatbridge to Tilbury, passed two red signals in succession as it approached Carstairs on the Up Main line. The train passed through Carstairs station and came to a stand around two miles after it had started to brake. An initial review of the evidence suggests that the braking performance of the train was below that expected of a train of its type. As freight train 4L81 approached Carstairs, passenger train 1S17, the 13:00 hrs service from Kings Cross to Glasgow Central, was being routed across the Up Main line at the south end of the station. This passed clear of the junction less than two minutes before the arrival of the freight train. Actions by the signaller had averted the potential for a derailment or collision between freight train 4L81 and a second passenger train that was also approaching Carstairs, from the direction of Edinburgh. The weather at the time was poor, with heavy falling snow and freezing temperatures. The RAIB's preliminary examination has identified no evidence that the operation or condition of the railway signalling system contributed to the incident. The RAIB’s investigation is independent of any investigations by the safety authority. The RAIB will publish a report, including any recommendations to improve safety, at the conclusion of its investigation. This report will be available on the RAIB website. You can subscribe to automated emails notifying you when the RAIB publishes its reports. Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| RAIB Carstairs 22 December 2009 11/01/2010 at 16:32 #5731 | |
northroad
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Thanks for the extract but I'm sure I read this earlier today somewhere else? northroad Log in to reply |
| RAIB Carstairs 22 December 2009 11/01/2010 at 20:12 #5737 | |
UKTrainMan
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Will certainly be another interesting RAIB report to read. Thanks. northroad said: Thanks for the extract but I'm sure I read this earlier today somewhere else?Someone else mentioned it earlier today or yesterday, I believe. In particular the "An initial review of the evidence suggests that the braking performance of the train was below that expected of a train of its type." part. Could that be it? Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| RAIB Carstairs 22 December 2009 11/01/2010 at 22:47 #5745 | |
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daverail01
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I will be interested to see if there are any similarities with the incident at Carrbridge involving the DBS-StobartRail train
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| RAIB Carstairs 22 December 2009 11/01/2010 at 23:44 #5747 | |
postal
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UKTrainMan said:Will certainly be another interesting RAIB report to read. Thanks.Seeing as it is a direct cut and paste from the RAIB web-site, more than likely. Tallington (Ken Otter) put the link to the original RAIB posting up in another thread (http://www.SimSig.co.uk/index.php?option=com_agora&task=topic&id=455&Itemid=54) earlier today. @northroad - being a Geordie has its advantages as no-one expects you to have any social skills. JG “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| RAIB Carstairs 22 December 2009 12/01/2010 at 05:43 #5750 | |
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northroad
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Postal, I was trying to be as subtle as I could there....it was slightly confusing having two topics going for the same thread or vice versa....still he who never made a mistake never made anything and it would be a rather boring world As for geordieland. History shows there have been some good things come out of there the LNER for one....and also thankfully the A1(M).... oops northroad Log in to reply |
| RAIB Carstairs 22 December 2009 12/01/2010 at 09:03 #5752 | |
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clive
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northroad said:As for geordieland. History shows there have been some good things come out of there the LNER for one....and also thankfully the A1(M).... oopsAnd my missus, so be careful what you say. Log in to reply |
| RAIB Carstairs 22 December 2009 24/01/2010 at 20:51 #6143 | |
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Osprey
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The word on the street is particulary scary in to the cause of the Stobart/Tesco Home Delivery to Carrbridge.Am I allowed to say with a shed load of allegedlies?
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| RAIB Carstairs 22 December 2009 24/01/2010 at 21:00 #6145 | |
Peter Bennet
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Tesco home delivery: "You Shop We Drop" [sic] Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| RAIB Carstairs 22 December 2009 24/01/2010 at 21:03 #6146 | |
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Osprey
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Thats the one Peter!
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| RAIB Carstairs 22 December 2009 24/01/2010 at 21:59 #6148 | |
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postal
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Osprey said:The word on the street is particulary scary in to the cause of the Stobart/Tesco Home Delivery to Carrbridge.Am I allowed to say with a shed load of allegedlies?Have a read of the article in February's Modern Railways and you can probably start dropping one or two of the "allegedlys". “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| RAIB Carstairs 22 December 2009 26/01/2010 at 12:54 #6207 | |
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Osprey
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So I can safely say the days of cord release on distributors are well and truely numbered!
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