Warrington PSB FAQ

headshot119 in post 136916 said:

whatlep in post 136915 said:

Is a position defined north of Wigan NW that would allow a loco to move from one platform to another using signal WN12 in a timetabled move? Thinking of loco changes diesel/electric as occurred for some years and also run-round manoeuvres. Apologies if I am missing the blindingly obvious.

Not that I can see, I've raised Mantis 32936 as a feature request.

I havent added it to mantis yet, but there's also no valid paths at WBQ to use the north reverse GPLs to facilitate loco changes in 3 and 4.

I routed an electric freight from Warrington BQ into Arpley Sidings as a test for a new timetable and received the message "4M38 has reached the end of electrification". This surprised me! At least as far back as 1990 and I think even when Warrington PSB ws opened, the three roads accessible directly in the Up direction were all electrified. Or am I missing something super-subtle in SimSig?

whatlep in post 137306 said:

I routed an electric freight from Warrington BQ into Arpley Sidings as a test for a new timetable and received the message "4M38 has reached the end of electrification". This surprised me! At least as far back as 1990 and I think even when Warrington PSB ws opened, the three roads accessible directly in the Up direction were all electrified. Or am I missing something super-subtle in SimSig?

Mantis 33072 for investigation

whatlep in post 137306 said:

I routed an electric freight from Warrington BQ into Arpley Sidings as a test for a new timetable and received the message "4M38 has reached the end of electrification". This surprised me! At least as far back as 1990 and I think even when Warrington PSB ws opened, the three roads accessible directly in the Up direction were all electrified. Or am I missing something super-subtle in SimSig?

Mantis 33072 for investigation

I have an issue regarding Warrington RMT, Train 1M02 Shieldmuir - Warrington Royal Mail has arrived into Platform 1 via Platform 2 as its 240m (12/325) where it forms 1S02 back to Shieldmuir. Upon arrival I cancel Signal 137 [P2] but the overlap after Signal 138 [P1] locking Point Set (P805) won't clear. I tried to clear the overlap but still there is this a sim issue or an issue on my behalf

I have a handful of locos that run round its train at the RMT Terminal, So I edited the timetable to add both Warrington RMT Rev 166 & Warrington RMT Rev 173 but when validating it pops up Next Key Locations. Am I doing this wrong?

Compliments to those involved in the recent update of WBQ. The addition of Garswood reversal facilities is much appreciated! One thing I'm still struggling with and it may be so blindingly obvious I'll be embarrassed. Simply, what's the sequence of locations required to schedule a train from Wigan North Western to Bickershaw Colliery?

HST125Scorton in post 140369 said:

I have a handful of locos that run round its train at the RMT Terminal, So I edited the timetable to add both Warrington RMT Rev 166 & Warrington RMT Rev 173 but when validating it pops up Next Key Locations. Am I doing this wrong?

[quote=whatlep;post=140437]Compliments to those involved in the recent update of WBQ. The addition of Garswood reversal facilities is much appreciated! One thing I'm still struggling with and it may be so blindingly obvious I'll be embarrassed. Simply, what's the sequence of locations required to schedule a train from Wigan North Western to Bickershaw Colliery?

Thanks in advance. A heritage (1977) timetable is in development....

The first is to do with trains routed via the Up Goods at Warrington Bank Quay in the 1972-2009 era.
At signal 174, you get the message shown next to 6M25 in the Warrington 6M25 F2 file that should be attached. I've also included the timetable for 6M25 at Warrington, so you can see what is intended. You do get an error message to say that the train is wrongly routed, I was intending to abandon the timetable for 6M25 and see if you could get round it that way but the train decided to start detaching the loco. I will add an edit when I know further.

The second point is following on from electric trains using Arpley Sidings as mentioned further up this topic, should this also apply to Walton Traffic Sidings for the 1972-2009era, if you try to route an AC loco-hauled train in or out you get a wrong traction message. I did try to find a photo, if you have Paul Shannon's Speedlink book the front cover and page 59 of the book illustrate this.

cdoward in post 141966 said:

The first is to do with trains routed via the Up Goods at Warrington Bank Quay in the 1972-2009 era.
At signal 174, you get the message shown next to 6M25 in the Warrington 6M25 F2 file that should be attached. I've also included the timetable for 6M25 at Warrington, so you can see what is intended. You do get an error message to say that the train is wrongly routed, I was intending to abandon the timetable for 6M25 and see if you could get round it that way but the train decided to start detaching the loco. I will add an edit when I know further.

I assume this is a timetable you've written yourself, and not one that's supplied with the simulation?

The train needs 'Thru line stop' at Bank Quay ticked, or it'll want to use a platform line. It also appears to be flagged as a regulating stop, I'm not sure if this is advised if the train also has activities.

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The second point is following on from electric trains using Arpley Sidings as mentioned further up this topic, should this also apply to Walton Traffic Sidings for the 1972-2009era, if you try to route an AC loco-hauled train in or out you get a wrong traction message. I did try to find a photo, if you have Paul Shannon's Speedlink book the front cover and page 59 of the book illustrate this.

The traffic sidings aren't electrified; only the MSC sidings and Arpley Yard.

Yes, it is a timetable I'm working on myself. I'd completely overlooked the through line stop at Warrington Bank Quay. THe train is booked to be regulated at Warrington Bak Quay in the WTT. I'll see what happens.

I've added the cover from Paul Shannon's Speedlink book from the internet. I presume the MGR's just visible to the left of the 90 are in the MSC Sdgs and that 90039 is in the Traffic Sidings or Walton Old Jn Sdgs (Quail/4: LMR 1990. Photo is dated 27 June 1991.

But unlike Wigan, there is not a platform starter for the train to seed at. Have you tried using the seeding gap? Seed the train at the signal and then adjust the gap so it seeds in the platform.

I've logged 35908 to investigate, however without a savegame, or a full timetable schedule it's hard to narrow down exactly what has gone on.