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Warrington PSB FAQ 24/12/2020 at 15:42 #135212
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You are right Clive - Greenall Whitley Brewery sdvertised their vodka as "Wodka from Warrington"
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Warrington PSB FAQ 26/12/2020 at 16:16 #135402
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I have an issue regarding units coming out of the Unit Sidings at Springs Branch I've tried a few things including looking at the 2019 timetable to give me ideas on how routing works. Any ideas how to fix this?


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Warrington PSB FAQ 26/12/2020 at 16:19 #135403
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HST125Scorton in post 135402 said:
I have an issue regarding units coming out of the Unit Sidings at Springs Branch I've tried a few things including looking at the 2019 timetable to give me ideas on how routing works. Any ideas how to fix this?

I think you need Station Junction after South and before Wallgate.

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Warrington PSB FAQ 26/12/2020 at 16:19 #135404
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Seems like it should be enough just to add Wigan Station Junction in between.
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Warrington PSB FAQ 26/12/2020 at 16:26 #135405
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Many thanks folks it's worked now I added Station Jn ;-). Once idea I never decided on haha.
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Warrington PSB FAQ 26/12/2020 at 17:40 #135410
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HST125Scorton in post 135402 said:
I have an issue regarding units coming out of the Unit Sidings at Springs Branch I've tried a few things including looking at the 2019 timetable to give me ideas on how routing works. Any ideas how to fix this?

RTT did give you all the needed locations to get the train from springs branch to Wigan Wallgate
Also the entry point marked as sidings was removed when they relaid the area for the stabling sidings so it would be more realistic entering at the LIP

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Warrington PSB FAQ 26/12/2020 at 19:30 #135414
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y10g9 in post 135410 said:
HST125Scorton in post 135402 said:
I have an issue regarding units coming out of the Unit Sidings at Springs Branch I've tried a few things including looking at the 2019 timetable to give me ideas on how routing works. Any ideas how to fix this?

RTT did give you all the needed locations to get the train from springs branch to Wigan Wallgate
Also the entry point marked as sidings was removed when they relaid the area for the stabling sidings so it would be more realistic entering at the LIP
Many thanks for that, I was considering either the LIP or Sidings entry but will now move to LIP.

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Warrington PSB FAQ 26/12/2020 at 20:09 #135415
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Just one more query when I load up 2019 timetable at 2pm start I have train 1S07 ex-RMT2 on Warrington Royal Mail [Dallam] Platform 2 with a 1400 departure. I click the route from WN130 to WN170 but 'Point(s) locked normal by another route' message in the box. There isn't anything referenced in the manual and it effects trains that are in Platform 2 & Platform 1.
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Warrington PSB FAQ 26/12/2020 at 20:17 #135416
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HST125Scorton in post 135415 said:
Just one more query when I load up 2019 timetable at 2pm start I have train 1S07 ex-RMT2 on Warrington Royal Mail [Dallam] Platform 2 with a 1400 departure. I click the route from WN130 to WN170 but 'Point(s) locked normal by another route' message in the box. There isn't anything referenced in the manual and it effects trains that are in Platform 2 & Platform 1.
You've got time of operation point locking here. I can't remember the time, but its something in the region of requiring the platform track clear, or occupied for a period of something like 120 seconds to be able to swing the points

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Warrington PSB FAQ 26/12/2020 at 20:21 #135417
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pedroathome in post 135416 said:
HST125Scorton in post 135415 said:
Just one more query when I load up 2019 timetable at 2pm start I have train 1S07 ex-RMT2 on Warrington Royal Mail [Dallam] Platform 2 with a 1400 departure. I click the route from WN130 to WN170 but 'Point(s) locked normal by another route' message in the box. There isn't anything referenced in the manual and it effects trains that are in Platform 2 & Platform 1.
You've got time of operation point locking here. I can't remember the time, but its something in the region of requiring the platform track clear, or occupied for a period of something like 120 seconds to be able to swing the points
Ah right I see what you mean, 1402 when I finally able to swing them and able to set routes. Maybe an idea to add that into the manual for others.

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Warrington PSB FAQ 27/12/2020 at 21:12 #135449
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Might have missed this in the manual, but on one occasion in the 2019 timetable I had an ECS that comes off the Wallgate line, down the WCML and onto the Manchester line via Golbourne junction. It had a few minutes to wait before I could give it the slot off the Wallgate line as the junctions were a bit gummed up. I received a call from Wallgate informing me that he had a train for me that was booked WCML. On previous occasions that Wallgate sent me a train booked via the WCML (the binliner) I received no such call. Is this because there was a bit of a delay and the signaller's way of reminding me the train was there?
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Warrington PSB FAQ 27/12/2020 at 21:21 #135450
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AlexH in post 135449 said:
Might have missed this in the manual, but on one occasion in the 2019 timetable I had an ECS that comes off the Wallgate line, down the WCML and onto the Manchester line via Golbourne junction. It had a few minutes to wait before I could give it the slot off the Wallgate line as the junctions were a bit gummed up. I received a call from Wallgate informing me that he had a train for me that was booked WCML. On previous occasions that Wallgate sent me a train booked via the WCML (the binliner) I received no such call. Is this because there was a bit of a delay and the signaller's way of reminding me the train was there?
The way this is intended to work is if you have a train booked towards the WCML, but you have a slot set towards Crow Nest Junction, you'll get a phone call telling you that you've got the wrong route set for the train, before Wallgate will route the train towards you (Or in this case, allow the train to enter).

From your description, I'm not convinced this is working as I intended it to (I don't currently have the data in front of me), but will do some digging tomorrow. From memory, I thought it was set up to only phone in when the incorrect route was set.

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Warrington PSB FAQ 28/12/2020 at 07:53 #135454
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miker15 in post 135212 said:
You are right Clive - Greenall Whitley Brewery sdvertised their vodka as "Wodka from Warrington"
Your memory is incomplete: "Wladiwar Wodka from Warrington".

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Warrington PSB FAQ 28/12/2020 at 09:05 #135458
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What is Newton-Le-Willows Platform 150?
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Warrington PSB FAQ 28/12/2020 at 09:05 #135459
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Warrington PSB FAQ 28/12/2020 at 09:33 #135460
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swiftaw in post 135458 said:
What is Newton-Le-Willows Platform 150?
Its the imaginary platform 148 platforms away from Platform 2. Serious answer, logged on Mantis as 0032619, and resolved.

For reference, 150 should be the default stopping position, and not a platform number. Somehow i've entered this as the wrong key

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Warrington PSB FAQ 28/12/2020 at 11:58 #135468
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Hi James,

Can confirm that I didn't have a route set for the train at that time (or any time previously). Previous trains had a bit of a wait at the junction as well, but no phone call.

A quick note to thank you for the sim, it's excellent. Now no longer, but it used to be pretty close to my home turf.

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Warrington PSB FAQ 28/12/2020 at 18:02 #135481
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I have train 6Q60 that's arriving at Warrington from Rugby, on the diagrams it went into the Loco Platform at Warrington Bank Quay, so using it's path I set it Acton Grange, Warrington P4 then Warrington Rev 185 and final location Warrington Bank Quay. But when validating it comes up invalid any ideas?


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Warrington PSB FAQ 28/12/2020 at 18:16 #135482
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Paths to and from the reverse point missing, Mantis 32620 raised.
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Warrington PSB FAQ 28/12/2020 at 18:18 #135483
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Steamer in post 135482 said:
Paths to and from the reverse point missing, Mantis 32620 raised.
Also to note platforms Loco and Dock are missing from the timetable editor for warrington.

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Warrington PSB FAQ 28/12/2020 at 18:21 #135484
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HST125Scorton in post 135483 said:
Steamer in post 135482 said:
Paths to and from the reverse point missing, Mantis 32620 raised.
Also to note platforms Loco and Dock are missing from the timetable editor for warrington.
#32621 raised

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Warrington PSB FAQ 29/12/2020 at 08:22 #135497
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I'm running a chain with Warrington and Wigan and I seem to be having issues with signaling trains into Wallgate from Hindley/Ince. How do you get 35 to turn green? I've routed from 35 to WW 101 and then from WW 101 to WW 103 on the Wigan sim but 35 stays at red.

(Note, I had no problem when I was just running Warrington by itself)

Edit: I figured it out, I had to set a route from WW 100 (which confused me because it is grey)

Edit2: FYI: I call this the Rugby League chain - see screenshot (St Helens, Warrington, Wigan)

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Warrington PSB FAQ 29/12/2020 at 11:46 #135510
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I have a train that needs to be seeded at Signal 567, but have noticed in the timetable editor seeding location that signals 565, 567, 569 & 583 are missing on the Up Chat Moss in the editor.
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Warrington PSB FAQ 29/12/2020 at 12:10 #135512
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HST125Scorton in post 135510 said:
I have a train that needs to be seeded at Signal 567, but have noticed in the timetable editor seeding location that signals 565, 567, 569 & 583 are missing on the Up Chat Moss in the editor.
They're on the list, but listed as S565, S567 etc. in the modern era. I assume this is because the signals are substantially different between eras- 567 is an auto in the old era but controlled in the new.

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Warrington PSB FAQ 29/12/2020 at 13:38 #135515
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Steamer in post 135512 said:

They're on the list, but listed as S565, S567 etc. in the modern era. I assume this is because the signals are substantially different between eras- 567 is an auto in the old era but controlled in the new.
The name that appears in the seeding list doesn't have to be the signal number, so the dev could make them "567 (old era)" and "567 (new era)", for example.

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