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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 05/01/2021 at 13:58 #135994
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162 posts 		Up for approval is my West Yorkshire 2018 timetable.
This is my usual 5 day (MON-FRI) timetable, with daily variants and lots of rules to keep you on your toes!
This timetable is chainable with my other timetables for Leeds Ardsley, Leeds East-West (city), which have all been re-released with full compatability with West Yorkshire. As usual, if you find any errors or problems please post them via the forum. Thanks !

Phil ....

Timetable Description below:
WEST YORKSHIRE
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West Yorkshire timetable of trains that actually ran during the fist week in October 2018.
Timetable and train info from Official CIF files, WTT's & TRUST.

Chains with : Leeds East-West, Leeds Ardley
Multi-Seed : Only 00.00 start at the present time but its intended to add a 04.45 start in the future which will be compatible with my Leeds Ardsley and Leeds East-West timetables of the same date.

Timetabled Trains : 830
Rules : 256
Decisions : 1
Train Types : 95

Rules have been applied to stop sets returning earlier than is possible when the oubound train is late or in times of disruption.
Rules as well as dwell and turnaround times are as per Network Rail's Rules Of The Route document.

Freight :
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All freight trains times are from the official cif files, consists are checked with trains that have ran during the period of the timetable (1-5 October 2018), and the decisions of DOTW (Day of the week) is based on this imformation.

Thanks :
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Thanks go to Geoff Mayo for creating SimSig in the first place, and to Noel Young for the developing of
West Yorkshire.
Thanks also to Andy Allen for doing some testing, another pair of eyes always helps !

Enjoy and please advise me of any errors found that are not listed above via the forum as the timetable has many scenarios, so some errors may appear despite thorough testing.

I hope you enjoy this intersting timetable as much as I have compiling it.

Timetable written by Phil Hodgson (Phil1044)

Timetable Versions :
05 January 21 : v 2.0.0 Initial Release
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 06/01/2021 at 10:20 #136029
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379 posts 		Really enjoyed testing this, and I can vouch that it's a very enjoyable timetable!
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 06/01/2021 at 15:11 #136044
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1795 posts 		This one of the sims that my daughter (oh, and her brothers as it turns out) bought me as Christmas/birthday presents.
Haven't had a chance to play it yet as I've been playing Central Scotland of late. However, it's definitely my next game
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 10/01/2021 at 14:48 #136188
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3701 posts 		minor typo on 6E27. Drax is spelt Crax.
"We don't stop camborne wednesdays"
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 10/01/2021 at 17:39 #136205
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162 posts 		jc92 in post 136188 said:
minor typo on 6E27. Drax is spelt Crax.
Just testing to see who is alert !
You win the prize

Phil .......
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 12/01/2021 at 19:56 #136313
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379 posts 		Phil, one we've just come across and I even remember finding when testing (but obviously forgot to write down...)

5D92 is missing its reverse location when it comes out of Crofton Depot (WK8205)
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 12/01/2021 at 19:59 #136316
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162 posts 		andyallen4014 in post 136313 said:
Phil, one we've just come across and I even remember finding when testing (but obviously forgot to write down...)

5D92 is missing its reverse location when it comes out of Crofton Depot (WK8205)
Ok cheers Andy.
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5D92 disappeared, but I found out why. 31/03/2021 at 14:20 #138256
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1795 posts 		phil1044 in post 136316 said:
andyallen4014 in post 136313 said:
Phil, one we've just come across and I even remember finding when testing (but obviously forgot to write down...)

5D92 is missing its reverse location when it comes out of Crofton Depot (WK8205)
Ok cheers Andy.
It certainly pays to check previous posts when you encounter a problem even though you don’t always find a solution there.

So, whilst playing the 2018 timetable, 5D92 appeared at the Crofton Depot exit and proceeded to cross to the UP line in the direction of Kirkgate. It stopped and straddled the points for a few minutes and then disappeared from the sim.

I found the solution in the post above amongst those in the “Timetables” section.
I added the relevant reversing point, although for some reason it wouldn’t let me input the arrival and departure times. I just left those blank.

Anyway. Job done
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 31/03/2021 at 22:07 #138258
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604 posts 		Do you think they'll be a York North/South version at some point?
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 03/04/2021 at 15:10 #138325
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1795 posts 		Getting on quite nicely with this excellent timetable. However, at 20:45 I miss-routed 4M90 at Knottingley West Junction sending it towards Ferrybridge North Jn. instead of Pontefract East Jn. The driver accepted the route when he should really have queried it surely?
I've checked previous posts and can't see anything related, probably because I'm the only dumbo to have done this :/

Let me know if a save is required.
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 03/04/2021 at 15:35 #138328
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1795 posts 		Oh dear. I've totally lost concentration and wrong-route another train and it didn't query it. 4R56 should have gone to Knottingley South Jn and Haywood Jn. I think the answer is to go and make a pot of tea :)
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 03/04/2021 at 15:35 #138329
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1795 posts 		Forgot the photo
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 03/04/2021 at 17:03 #138331
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5269 posts 		Of course if you have used F3 to set an autosave every few minutes you can just bin the chaos you have caused and reload a recent save so you don't have to back-track too far.
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 03/04/2021 at 21:42 #138350
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1795 posts 		postal in post 138331 said:
Of course if you have used F3 to set an autosave every few minutes you can just bin the chaos you have caused and reload a recent save so you don't have to back-track too far.
Absolutely. I have the saves set every 10 minutes which is sometimes quite useful and I did back-track to an earlier save, after a cup of tea of course.
I had to do the same thing again later when a train was scheduled to stop in platform 1 at Wakefield Kirkgate where it formed an ECS unit and its onward journey towards Calder Bridge Jn would have been impossible. Loaded an earlier save and changed the tt to redirect it into platform 3.
Unfortunately, with this timetable you can't check the schedule for an onward service before a TD change as you can with a few others.
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 03/04/2021 at 22:38 #138351
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5269 posts 		bugsy in post 138350 said:
Unfortunately, with this timetable you can't check the schedule for an onward service before a TD change as you can with a few others.
As Manuel from Barcelona said, "Que?"

There is always the option of going into F4 to look at a TT if you know the N working from the pop-up TT generated by clicking on the existing TD on the panel. However there are also easier options available.

If your loader is up to date (v5.13) when you click on a TD on the panel, the TT is displayed. If there is an N working set this displays in the TT as a hyperlink (underlined blue text). Click on that and the TT for the N working is displayed.

Alternatively you can add a Sticky and type in the TD of the N working; clicking on that shows the TT for the train. As another way you can put the TD for the next working into any berth on the panel and click on it to show the TT.
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 04/04/2021 at 06:51 #138354
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379 posts 		bugsy in post 138350 said:
postal in post 138331 said:
Of course if you have used F3 to set an autosave every few minutes you can just bin the chaos you have caused and reload a recent save so you don't have to back-track too far.

I had to do the same thing again later when a train was scheduled to stop in platform 1 at Wakefield Kirkgate where it formed an ECS unit and its onward journey towards Calder Bridge Jn would have been impossible. Loaded an earlier save and changed the tt to redirect it into platform 3.
Please report any mis platforms or other TT issues here in this thread as despite thorough testing by Phil and I before release there will inevitably be a few things that slipped through the net that can be amended by Phil for a future update.
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 04/04/2021 at 09:13 #138356
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1795 posts 		andyallen4014 in post 138354 said:


Please report any mis platforms or other TT issues here in this thread as despite thorough testing by Phil and I before release there will inevitably be a few things that slipped through the net that can be amended by Phil for a future update.
I usually do, but on this occasion I just got on with things. I'll re-run from a save so that I can check what happened and report it back here.
I'll include a screenshot and a save.
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 04/04/2021 at 10:39 #138358
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1795 posts 		Regarding the scheduling of a train (2O92) into Wakefield Kirkgate P1 and not P3 that I mentioned in an earlier post, I have attached a screenshot just prior to this happening along with a second screenshot showing the next working 5O94 and its new timetable, plus saved game just before 2O92 enters P1.
You'll be able to see in the second screenshot that there is no route from P1 to Calder Bridge Jn.

This should help you guys with your investigation. 😊
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 04/04/2021 at 10:57 #138359
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379 posts 		It's funny as that 5O94 definitely rings a bell with me. I was probably too busy musing that I would expect it to be 5O92 (having run off 2O92) to actually notice what it was doing!
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 04/04/2021 at 13:01 #138371
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1795 posts 		andyallen4014 in post 138359 said:
It's funny as that 5O94 definitely rings a bell with me. I was probably too busy musing that I would expect it to be 5O92 (having run off 2O92) to actually notice what it was doing!
But if you just forget about a train, don't you get phone calls telling you that it's waiting a red signal so-and-so?
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 04/04/2021 at 13:31 #138372
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379 posts 		bugsy in post 138371 said:
andyallen4014 in post 138359 said:
It's funny as that 5O94 definitely rings a bell with me. I was probably too busy musing that I would expect it to be 5O92 (having run off 2O92) to actually notice what it was doing!
But if you just forget about a train, don't you get phone calls telling you that it's waiting a red signal so-and-so?
I was referring to failing to note it down it as part of the testing process.
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 04/04/2021 at 15:19 #138373
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1795 posts 		andyallen4014 in post 138372 said:
bugsy in post 138371 said:
andyallen4014 in post 138359 said:
It's funny as that 5O94 definitely rings a bell with me. I was probably too busy musing that I would expect it to be 5O92 (having run off 2O92) to actually notice what it was doing!
But if you just forget about a train, don't you get phone calls telling you that it's waiting a red signal so-and-so?
I was referring to failing to note it down it as part of the testing process.
Oops. Misunderstood what you meant. Apologies.
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 04/04/2021 at 20:03 #138374
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162 posts 		Guts in post 138258 said:
Do you think they'll be a York North/South version at some point?
It's on my back burner to do, but I'm busy with a Midlands chain at the moment, so it won't be for a little while yet.
I'll get the reported issues with West Yorkshire done soon and upload an updated Timetable.

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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 14/11/2021 at 12:41 #142320
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1795 posts 		andyallen4014 in post 136313 said:
Phil, one we've just come across and I even remember finding when testing (but obviously forgot to write down...)

5D92 is missing its reverse location when it comes out of Crofton Depot (WK8205)
I'm playing the 2018 timetable and have just had this problem again with 5D92. It's probably on a 'to do' list but I thought that I would mention it anyway.

So, I added the reversing location and all was ok, but not entirely. When 5D92 was at signal WK8205 I set a route towards Pontefract Monkhill but the train didn't move until until the driver phoned and I told to pass the red signal. Is this normal?
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West Yorkshire Oct 2018 18/11/2021 at 11:13 #142365
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162 posts 		Hiya, thanks Bugsy. I will get this amended soon, been busy with much decorating and the like at home over the past few months so had very little time for SimSig.
Rest assured I haven't gone away, so will get this and my megga midlands chain out for release soon.

Phil
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