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Loading 1922 Timetable 13/03/2021 at 15:01 #137778 | |
Terry
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Attached is picture of timetables for Westbury in 'Public Documents'. However, this timetable does not show after loadfing the 'Westbury' sim. The other timetables shown are there. Can anyone help here? Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Terry Log in to reply |
Loading 1922 Timetable 13/03/2021 at 15:14 #137781 | |
Dionysusnu
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This is an older format timetable. You can load it by starting the simulation without a timetable, then going to menu > timetable > open (merge)
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Loading 1922 Timetable 13/03/2021 at 15:15 #137782 | |
postal
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The TT is in the old WTT/WTR format. Is it the same problem as you have previously raised regarding an older SwinDid TT? You were helped to solve that problem by @Steamer here. The same process should work for the Westbury TT.
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Loading 1922 Timetable 13/03/2021 at 15:16 #137783 | |
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Dionysusnu in post 137781 said:This is an older format timetable. You can load it by starting the simulation without a timetable, then going to menu > timetable > open (merge)That won't work correctly unless the WTR file is in the same place as the WTT file. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
Loading 1922 Timetable 13/03/2021 at 15:26 #137784 | |
Dionysusnu
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postal in post 137783 said:Dionysusnu in post 137781 said:Yes it will. WTR files are not required, the timetable will simply not include any rules. I've done it plenty of times myself.This is an older format timetable. You can load it by starting the simulation without a timetable, then going to menu > timetable > open (merge)That won't work correctly unless the WTR file is in the same place as the WTT file. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Terry |
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Terry
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What a memory you have Postal! I'd forgotten all about this. Thanks.
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Dionysusnu in post 137784 said:Yes it will. WTR files are not required, the timetable will simply not include any rules. I've done it plenty of times myself.It will not work as the TT writer wishes it to work if the writer has included rules to make it work properly. To my mind that comes under the category "not working correctly". Perhaps the reading of the wording marks the difference between people with an operational mindset and a theoretical mindset in that the TT will load so fulfils that reading of the statement but will load but not operate correctly which was my point. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 13/03/2021 at 16:02 by postal Reason: None given Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Peter Bennet, jc92, Hap |
Loading 1922 Timetable 13/03/2021 at 18:07 #137792 | |
Dionysusnu
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postal in post 137790 said:Dionysusnu in post 137784 said:Some timetables don't have any rules intended to be attached..Yes it will. WTR files are not required, the timetable will simply not include any rules. I've done it plenty of times myself.It will not work as the TT writer wishes it to work if the writer has included rules to make it work properly. To my mind that comes under the category "not working correctly". Log in to reply |
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Dionysusnu in post 137792 said:postal in post 137790 said:The relevance to the current discussion being . . . . ?Dionysusnu in post 137784 said:Some timetables don't have any rules intended to be attached..Yes it will. WTR files are not required, the timetable will simply not include any rules. I've done it plenty of times myself.It will not work as the TT writer wishes it to work if the writer has included rules to make it work properly. To my mind that comes under the category "not working correctly". “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 13/03/2021 at 19:06 by postal Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: jc92 |
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Dionysusnu in post 137784 said:postal in post 137783 said:I'm confused why, knowing this is the case, you'd still choose to load the timetable without any rules if you know they're part of the timetable?Dionysusnu in post 137781 said:Yes it will. WTR files are not required, the timetable will simply not include any rules. I've done it plenty of times myself.This is an older format timetable. You can load it by starting the simulation without a timetable, then going to menu > timetable > open (merge)That won't work correctly unless the WTR file is in the same place as the WTT file. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: postal |
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So, it will partially work, and the amount of partiality depends on how much the original timetable depended on rules...
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DonRiver in post 137800 said:So, it will partially work, and the amount of partiality depends on how much the original timetable depended on rules...Yes, but comments like that only make sense if you are interested in proving that geeks trump operators which is not really the point at issue if you are the average SimSig user. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Meld, jc92, Hap |
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Dionysusnu
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jc92 in post 137796 said:Dionysusnu in post 137784 said:postal in post 137783 said:I'm confused why, knowing this is the case, you'd still choose to load the timetable without any rules if you know they're part of the timetable?Dionysusnu in post 137781 said:Yes it will. WTR files are not required, the timetable will simply not include any rules. I've done it plenty of times myself.This is an older format timetable. You can load it by starting the simulation without a timetable, then going to menu > timetable > open (merge)That won't work correctly unless the WTR file is in the same place as the WTT file. Because no one mentioned anything about whether or not the TT included any rules. Log in to reply |
Loading 1922 Timetable 14/03/2021 at 20:09 #137834 | |
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Dionysusnu in post 137831 said:jc92 in post 137796 said:Meanwhile, in the real world . . . .Dionysusnu in post 137784 said:postal in post 137783 said:I'm confused why, knowing this is the case, you'd still choose to load the timetable without any rules if you know they're part of the timetable?Dionysusnu in post 137781 said:Yes it will. WTR files are not required, the timetable will simply not include any rules. I've done it plenty of times myself.This is an older format timetable. You can load it by starting the simulation without a timetable, then going to menu > timetable > open (merge)That won't work correctly unless the WTR file is in the same place as the WTT file. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Hap, Meld, jc92 |
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postal in post 137834 said:Dionysusnu in post 137831 said:jc92 in post 137796 said:Dionysusnu in post 137784 said:postal in post 137783 said:Dionysusnu in post 137781 said:This is an older format timetable. You can load it by starting the simulation without a timetable, then going to menu > timetable > open (merge) . . . . there are still plenty of timetables which don't include rules? Not everything needs a re-entry rule. Especially smaller simulations like I don't know, Aston? Terminus turnaround times can be done using dwell times. I'm just not going off the same assumption as you. Log in to reply |
Loading 1922 Timetable 15/03/2021 at 14:59 #137848 | |
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Dionysusnu in post 137847 said:
No assumption needed - the Westbury 1922 timetable zip contains a wtr file with 37 rules in it. The vast majority are re-entry rules for locos getting stock to and from sidings. With the latest Westbury sim there are some invalid timetables that need to be fixed. Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Meld, jc92 |
Loading 1922 Timetable 15/03/2021 at 15:04 #137849 | |
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Dionysusnu in post 137847 said:[Did you actually check to see if there were any rules in the WTR file ??? I've just merged both into sim and there are 119 rules for this timetable, so without the WTR it wont work as its supposed to. Always load have the WTR file in the same folder as the WTT for converting the timetable. Its about time you stopped misleading the members here with some of your forthright opinions Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!! Log in to reply The following users said thank you: jc92, Hap |
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Lets apply a bit of logic. Option 1. WTR in same location as WTT, timetable works 100% when there are rules. WTR in same location as WTT, timetable works 100% when there are no rules. Option 2. Only WTT, timetable works <100% when there are rules. Only WTT, timetable works 100% when there are no rules. I wonder which is the preferable option? Log in to reply The following users said thank you: jc92, postal |
Loading 1922 Timetable 15/03/2021 at 20:52 #137869 | |
Dionysusnu
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Meld in post 137849 said:Dionysusnu in post 137847 said:[Did you actually check to see if there were any rules in the WTR file ??? Again, different assumptions. I wasn't talking about this timetable in specific but old format timetables in general. Neither statement is 100% true. Not all timetables require a WTR file. And not all timetables work without a WTR file. Last edited: 15/03/2021 at 20:53 by Dionysusnu Reason: None given Log in to reply |
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Dionysusnu in post 137869 said:Meld in post 137849 said:Can we please stop this eternal self-justification which is of no relevance in the real SimSig world and of no help to the original poster.Dionysusnu in post 137847 said:[Did you actually check to see if there were any rules in the WTR file ??? “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Meld |
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postal in post 137870 said:Dionysusnu in post 137869 said:Meld in post 137849 said:Can we please stop this eternal self-justification which is of no relevance in the real SimSig world and of no help to the original poster.Dionysusnu in post 137847 said:[Did you actually check to see if there were any rules in the WTR file ??? Could say exactly the same to you. But I don't, because it's not about being right or having the last word to me. Log in to reply |
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jc92
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Clearly its not about being right with you...
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Enough.
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