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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 28/10/2021 at 10:34 #142069
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Consider this image:


I have 1L02 requesting a slot over the Melksham single line, which 6D01 has just come off.
4D02 is for Thingley Jn and should go first as I have a queue of traffic behind it including another train for the single line.

However, when attempting to set the route for 4D02, I am greeted with:


As I have control over the single line, surely I should be able to route 4D02 before 1L02, even if the slot is currently requested?
Currently it seems I have no option but to hold traffic on the Dn Trowbridge.

The manual states nothing about this restriction, if one does so exist.

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 28/10/2021 at 11:10 #142071
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Replicated with minimal timetable, relevant prior save attached.
To replicate - wait for 1L02 to request slot and try to signal 4D02

This had been noticed before (Mantis 30618 refers), have reopened that as it was believed to be fixed.

Also see
https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/50798?postId=127129
which suggests a timetable change as some of the extra trains are going the wrong way. Fixing that would take some of the load off the Melksham single.

Bill


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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 28/10/2021 at 15:39 #142081
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The conditions for the route from Bradford Jn to set are too restrictive. Added to the ticket Bill re-opened. I don't have a time frame for a fix though.
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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 28/10/2021 at 20:27 #142089
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Fixed - uploaded to tester area for checking.

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 29/10/2021 at 12:27 #142105
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That's awesome guys, thanks!
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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 16/05/2022 at 08:12 #146513
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Peter Bennet in post 142089 said:
Fixed - uploaded to tester area for checking.

Peter
Just wondering if this has been released yet?

7 months on I'd like to continue playing

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 16/05/2022 at 08:24 #146514
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Funnily enough I just realised the other day it was still in the tester area and prodded, so hopefully shortly.

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 24/08/2022 at 14:06 #147682
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Dismayed this still hasn't been released 10 months after the fix was implemented.

Surely, with the saves available this wouldn't take very long at all to test and release?

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 24/08/2022 at 14:18 #147683
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There are a lot more fixes than just this one, fixing one thing broke another - it rather unravelled.
Still being actively tested and fixed.

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 24/08/2022 at 14:22 #147684
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Thanks for the update, Bill, it seemed from the outside that this had been forgotten about.
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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 24/08/2022 at 17:45 #147688
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MrSuttonmann in post 147684 said:
Thanks for the update, Bill, it seemed from the outside that this had been forgotten about.
It's not forgotten about it's just the testers are busy and when they do have the time they keep finding new problems, admittedly not all show-stoppers.
Then I have to find the time to investigate and so on.
Sometime this week I hope to once again put it out for testing but with the caveat that I'll only deal with show stoppers.
How long it takes then will really be up to the tester community and how busy/free they are and what they find.

Peter

P.s. I'm sure someone else uses that avatar too. #Odd

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 24/08/2022 at 18:23 #147692
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MrSuttonmann in post 147684 said:
Thanks for the update, Bill, it seemed from the outside that this had been forgotten about.
As a bonus there's a heavily revised default timetable, and an entirely new one.

Bill

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 26/08/2022 at 20:55 #147726
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Just to update, I've put the latest and hopefully final iteration of Westbury out for testing.
If there are no show-stopping reports then hopefully that will be it.

Note that this is likely to be the last ever update to that Sim and it'll then be frozen "warts and all" as per some of the other freeware sims.
Notwithstanding that I have said that if I ever get the relevant data for Westbury box (Track circuit maps and locking tables etc) then I'd like to sort all that out as I did to the Reading panel part.

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 16/09/2022 at 20:56 #148036
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Westbury 4.14 now released via updater.

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 16/09/2022 at 21:10 #148038
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Well done, all! Thanks for the update, Peter, and Bill.
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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 16/09/2022 at 22:49 #148040
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Peter Bennet in post 148036 said:
Westbury 4.14 now released via updater.

Peter
Should a Debug option be listed in the scenario selection? Just updated and shows all the scenarios including [Debug] Debug option.

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 17/09/2022 at 03:38 #148041
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HST125Scorton in post 148040 said:
Peter Bennet in post 148036 said:
Westbury 4.14 now released via updater.

Peter
Should a Debug option be listed in the scenario selection? Just updated and shows all the scenarios including [Debug] Debug option.
There was some debate around this following the conversion of Euston to loader format, it's a core code rather than sim related feature. I can't find the thread about it just now.

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 17/09/2022 at 04:05 #148042
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Thread might've been the announcement of Euston's loader release: https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/54061?postId=146930
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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 17/09/2022 at 07:30 #148043
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Just be aware that it was put in purely to make the Yeovil area visible.No attempt was made to tie it in with all of the other scenario related features, so select it at at your own risk. I had understood the feature was licence level specific, so I guess that will be fixed in a future loader.

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 17/09/2022 at 10:10 #148045
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headshot119 in post 148041 said:
HST125Scorton in post 148040 said:


Should a Debug option be listed in the scenario selection? Just updated and shows all the scenarios including [Debug] Debug option.
There was some debate around this following the conversion of Euston to loader format, it's a core code rather than sim related feature. I can't find the thread about it just now.
These have been renamed as something else; I forget what ("Detailed"??) and I'm at the wrong machine. There should be a tick-box to let you make them visible or invisible. But it looks like those changes haven't made it to a Loader release yet.

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Thingley Junction "Route not available" whilst slot requested 19/09/2022 at 13:21 #148066
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clive in post 148045 said:
headshot119 in post 148041 said:
HST125Scorton in post 148040 said:


Should a Debug option be listed in the scenario selection? Just updated and shows all the scenarios including [Debug] Debug option.
There was some debate around this following the conversion of Euston to loader format, it's a core code rather than sim related feature. I can't find the thread about it just now.
These have been renamed as something else; I forget what ("Detailed"??) and I'm at the wrong machine. There should be a tick-box to let you make them visible or invisible. But it looks like those changes haven't made it to a Loader release yet.
You need v5.21.1 or later for this.

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