Use of Doncaster Station Override

Controls at Doncaster Station allow the North signaller to override the Down Fast or Platform Approach decision. Normally the Auto button will be enabled which broadly gives preference over a train that has struck in on the Down Fast over a train yet to strike in on the Platform Approach berth. If the user wishes to override this, right-clicking on the Auto roundel to cancel it and then left-clicking on the appropriate routing arrow just above the Auto roundel will set route for that line (Down Fast or Platform Approach). Left-click on the Auto roundel to set back to auto working.

Have you read the manual around the ability to override the decision?

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Controls at Doncaster Station allow the North signaller to override the Down Fast or Platform Approach decision. Normally the Auto button will be enabled which broadly gives preference over a train that has struck in on the Down Fast over a train yet to strike in on the Platform Approach berth. If the user wishes to override this, right-clicking on the Auto roundel to cancel it and then left-clicking on the appropriate routing arrow just above the Auto roundel will set route for that line (Down Fast or Platform Approach). Left-click on the Auto roundel to set back to auto working.

It's possible to open the timetable editor, open up individual schedules and edit freight train's delays so that they enter just after passenger trains from the 'platform' entry point rather than just before. You'll need to check the entry times and delays of both passenger and freight trains to get an adjustment that works. Note that the delays are re-randomised each time a saved game is loaded.

I've used the same technique a few times on Hereford to avoid Newport constantly sending early running freights 3 minutes in front of passenger services. While I appreciate some may consider this cheating, and that signallers do sometimes have to make sub-optimum moves like this from time to time for a variety of reasons, I think it's justified on the basis that any signaller who was making moves like that on an hourly basis for no good reason would be on the receiving end of some very blunt Anglo Saxon.

Steamer in post 143544 said:

It's possible to open the timetable editor, open up individual schedules and edit freight train's delays so that they enter just after passenger trains from the 'platform' entry point rather than just before. You'll need to check the entry times and delays of both passenger and freight trains to get an adjustment that works. Note that the delays are re-randomised each time a saved game is loaded.

I've used the same technique a few times on Hereford to avoid Newport constantly sending early running freights 3 minutes in front of passenger services. While I appreciate some may consider this cheating, and that signallers do sometimes have to make sub-optimum moves like this from time to time for a variety of reasons, I think it's justified on the basis that any signaller who was making moves like that on an hourly basis for no good reason would be on the receiving end of some very blunt Anglo Saxon.

Thanks for this information.
I will have a look at the timetable editor and see what I can do :)

BTW. Do you know which of the 3 default sims is the busiest?

It's possible to open the timetable editor, open up individual schedules and edit freight train's delays so that they enter just after passenger trains from the 'platform' entry point rather than just before...................

However, if I were to move the "delay" sliders to the right, would this adjustment be reflected in the timetable editor?

Steamer in post 143544 said:

It's possible to open the timetable editor, open up individual schedules and edit freight train's delays so that they enter just after passenger trains from the 'platform' entry point rather than just before...................

I am adjusting the entry times of some freight trains and currently have the "delay" features in F3 set to the far left which I presume means no delays.
However, if I were to move the "delay" sliders to the right, would this adjustment be reflected in the timetable editor?

bugsy in post 143622 said:

Steamer in post 143544 said:

It's possible to open the timetable editor, open up individual schedules and edit freight train's delays so that they enter just after passenger trains from the 'platform' entry point rather than just before...................

I am adjusting the entry times of some freight trains and currently have the "delay" features in F3 set to the far left which I presume means no delays.
However, if I were to move the "delay" sliders to the right, would this adjustment be reflected in the timetable editor?

To be clear, the field you should be editing is the 'delay' one towards the bottom of the timetable editor, not the entry time.

The delay field will be randomly changed each time the simulation is loaded and each time the F3 options are changed. It's something you do up to an hour ahead, there's no point doing the whole day as you'll save and exit in that time.

Steamer in post 143624 said:

bugsy in post 143622 said:

Steamer in post 143544 said:

It's possible to open the timetable editor, open up individual schedules and edit freight train's delays so that they enter just after passenger trains from the 'platform' entry point rather than just before...................

I am adjusting the entry times of some freight trains and currently have the "delay" features in F3 set to the far left which I presume means no delays.
However, if I were to move the "delay" sliders to the right, would this adjustment be reflected in the timetable editor?

To be clear, the field you should be editing is the 'delay' one towards the bottom of the timetable editor, not the entry time.

The delay field will be randomly changed each time the simulation is loaded and each time the F3 options are changed. It's something you do up to an hour ahead, there's no point doing the whole day as you'll save and exit in that time.

Oh dear.
I've just edited two Doncaster timetables changing some of the train entry times. Have I completely wasted my time then even though both the delay buttons are set to the far left?

Edit: No need to answer that question because I've just found out that I have wasted my time; but fortunately not too much.

You keep referring to the train entry time- is it this you're changing or the delay value?

If you edit a timetable and then save the timetable (Timetable... Save as...) any saved games will not be changed.
To continue a saved game on an amended timetable you need to save the game (File ... Save as) because all saves have their own copy of the timetable in the save.

Saving the timetable will overwrite the default timetable file unless you 'Save as' with a new name.

I have had a look at the 2015-04-08 SX timetable and I could only find one potential clash (a class 1 or 5 less than 5 minutes behind a class 4 or class 6) under perfect running. That is 1N33 2 minutes behind 4H91 at Doncaster, and down to 30 seconds at Shaftholme.

Can you quote examples ?
Are the examples you see affecting only the 22 down fast trains, or are they station departures getting out of sequence ?

So, if I had just played until the first automatic save would the changed times have been kept