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High speed 1 31/05/2023 at 11:19 #151986
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as thinking what route i would love to play and one comes to might high speed line
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High speed 1 31/05/2023 at 19:24 #151991
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Pretty sure this has been suggested before. Issue with HS1 is that it's all ETCS and not sure how that would be replicated.

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High speed 1 31/05/2023 at 21:40 #151995
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High speed lines tend to be quite boring actually. Trains are often the same, predictive traffic patterns, well separated intervals. Flying junctions. Even where you have the equivalent of fast, semi-fast, and stoppers on the Shinkansen lines, the stopping trains often stop for several minutes before the following train passes them.
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High speed 1 01/06/2023 at 07:25 #151997
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i26 in post 151991 said:
Pretty sure this has been suggested before. Issue with HS1 is that it's all ETCS and not sure how that would be replicated.
From the little I’ve been forced to find out about Level 2 ETCS, it’s not that great a departure from more conventional signaling from the signaller’s end. It’s not moving block, you still set a route from A to B, and it does interlocking things. No idea if you could or would apply it to SimSig, but it doesn’t appear to be that “out there”.

For the driver, yes, it’s pretty radical.

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High speed 1 01/06/2023 at 12:36 #152010
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HS1 has no ETCS. It is a TVM430 line with KVB in the St Pancras station area.
Last edited: 01/06/2023 at 13:09 by Richard Gore
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High speed 1 01/06/2023 at 16:19 #152017
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Attached a snippet of the workstation at Ashford.


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High speed 1 03/06/2023 at 08:41 #152040
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I once had the pleasure a few years ago of visiting the CTRL Ashford Signalling Centre and spending a couple of hours with the signaller.

If I remember correctly as this was a quite a few years ago, before the line to St Pancras opened, the only real area of interest was around Ashford, but even then I don't think he had much control over anything except routing trains to/from the station or over the bypass.

Trains at the Tunnel end drop off into Eurotunnel control somwehere near Dollands Moor and dropped off the other end onto Network Rail on the chord before Ebbsfleet tunnel. Between these points, the trains just ran. There's no stations, no LCs... it's pretty boring as Geoff says. I would argue that the desk looking after the electrical systems was slightly more interesting!

Today might be more interesting as you'd have St Pancras, Stratford and the depot, Ebbsfleet and its interface with Network Rail there, following on to Ashford.

As for signalling, as @madabouttrains has posted, it's very much IECC style and would fit SimSig nicely.

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High speed 1 03/06/2023 at 09:07 #152041
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If this sim was ever produced, for me to consider purchasing it, it would have to be 'the route, the whole route and nothing but the route'
Sorry about my weird sense of humour

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High speed 1 03/06/2023 at 10:10 #152043
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bugsy in post 152041 said:
If this sim was ever produced, for me to consider purchasing it, it would have to be 'the route, the whole route and nothing but the route'
Sorry about my weird sense of humour :)
Would Sir like it to go all the way to Gare du Nord, Lille and Amsterdam?

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High speed 1 03/06/2023 at 12:56 #152048
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What have Bourg-Saint-Maurice & Avignon done wrong to be missed off ?

As an aside, I had a work trip to south-east Paris and decided to go by train. Getting an approved booking for London - Eurodisney was amusing at the corporate agency.

Bill :-)

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High speed 1 03/06/2023 at 17:54 #152055
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Sacro in post 152043 said:
bugsy in post 152041 said:
If this sim was ever produced, for me to consider purchasing it, it would have to be 'the route, the whole route and nothing but the route'
Sorry about my weird sense of humour :)
Would Sir like it to go all the way to Gare du Nord, Lille and Amsterdam?
Now that's a good idea. See to it would you, Jeeves? :-)

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