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S113 reverts when North Siding in Use 09/06/2024 at 14:49 #156522
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1184 posts 		Hi,
S113 (TLA down to TLB) reverts to danger when T202 becomes occupied by trains entering or leaving the North Siding (the route is not cancelled). It will go back to Off when the TCB clears.
It can be see in the attached at 08:06:14 as 5P62 departs. It was also seen at 02:22:22 on the 2023 timetable when it caused an ACoA for an ECS movement.

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Jamie
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S113 reverts when North Siding in Use 12/06/2024 at 13:45 #156552
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1111 posts 		Down North Siding has been out of use since February 2020 following the Earls Dewsbury cement derailment.

It hasn't seen any use for many years before the incident, so was plain lined as part of the repair to the trackwork, it is still plain lined today.

Any shunts from P1 or through line to the north end must use S142/147
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S113 reverts when North Siding in Use 12/06/2024 at 16:18 #156555
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1184 posts 		In the 2023 TT I've been forced to use the North Sdg as it's otherwise impossible to complete the required shunt moves (I'll note this in the TT).

So it sounds like it's definitely a bug for S113 to revert.
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S113 reverts when North Siding in Use 12/06/2024 at 22:49 #156557
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6377 posts 		9pN1SEAp in post 156522 said:
Hi,
S113 (TLA down to TLB) reverts to danger when T202 becomes occupied by trains entering or leaving the North Siding (the route is not cancelled). It will go back to Off when the TCB clears.
It can be see in the attached at 08:06:14 as 5P62 departs. It was also seen at 02:22:22 on the 2023 timetable when it caused an ACoA for an ECS movement.

Thanks
Jamie
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A quick look says R113(2) should not be checking T202 but does have some not-so-trivial flank and foul protection for the north siding that I need to dig into a bit more.
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S113 reverts when North Siding in Use 12/06/2024 at 23:24 #156559
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1111 posts 		9pN1SEAp in post 156555 said:
In the 2023 TT I've been forced to use the North Sdg as it's otherwise impossible to complete the required shunt moves (I'll note this in the TT).

So it sounds like it's definitely a bug for S113 to revert.
Looking at the current position of the save, it should be possible to shunt 5P62 through P1A to S92 on the spur, or into HS and re-enter which is a lot more common these days.

Also a lot of the terminators into P1A also do this to keep the platform clear
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