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Wigan NW Plat 3 Extension

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Wigan NW Plat 3 Extension 21/06/2024 at 10:36 #157629
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Is it possible to have platform 3 extended from 80m in sim to the actual 90m? It is listed in the SA as 87m but was continued on by 3m more to 90m to allow a 87m train sit in comfortably. This is for the current era 2009 onwards.
I did mention this in an older locked post: https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/53267

As you know Platform 2 was closed to allow the extension of Platform 3 to be done. 92m trains can't use Platform 3 and have to use Platform 1. But other stock like 150+156 combos (87m) and the now gone 319s (82m) all used Platform 3.

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Wigan NW Plat 3 Extension 21/06/2024 at 13:37 #157632
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For what it worth, four car 331s can also use it. It's tight but doable.
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Wigan NW Plat 3 Extension 21/06/2024 at 13:55 #157633
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There about 95m in length! That is a snug fit. Although not I've seen a 4 car 331 in there but a mix of 15x combos and 3 car 331s. I'm sure 2x 158s used to go into P3 but not 100% sure as they only seen them in P1.
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Wigan NW Plat 3 Extension 21/06/2024 at 14:05 #157634
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Very snug, but there is a method of work for it. When the four cars first appeared it caused a few issues as they are too long for the length in the SA so some drivers questioned it but if 1 is occupied and you call it in at WN43 you don't have much choice. A full brief was then released so everyone knows it can be done now though I've always been put in on 1 in a four car.
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Wigan NW Plat 3 Extension 21/06/2024 at 19:55 #157636
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For the record, it would appear both P2 and P3 TCs (T15/16) are 90m long, so should fit, albeit a train over 87m long may need a stop posn of FX @ 0m (or NX 0m) to pull up tight to the buffer stops.
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Wigan NW Plat 3 Extension 21/06/2024 at 21:43 #157639
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Splodge in post 157634 said:
Very snug, but there is a method of work for it. When the four cars first appeared it caused a few issues as they are too long for the length in the SA so some drivers questioned it but if 1 is occupied and you call it in at WN43 you don't have much choice. A full brief was then released so everyone knows it can be done now though I've always been put in on 1 in a four car.
Both Platforms 2 and 3 are 90 meters, a little longer than they were at the time of writing the sim (typically I stretch bay platforms slightly). There is also a short overlap on each of the platform starting signals, so while a train will fit in, it may be sat slightly ahead of the starter.

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Wigan NW Plat 3 Extension 21/06/2024 at 21:44 #157640
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Thank you for that Andy & James, I had a 150/156 combo at 87m seeded at 0m in P3 for a 0823 service to Man Vic via Crow Nest Jn. I tried a couple of trains anything that's bigger than 90m like 2x 158s or a 4 Car 331 will need to go into Plat 1 otherwise it will overhang.
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