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Cancel route oddity perhaps 29/12/2024 at 14:19 #159751 | |
slatteryc
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Situation : Doncaster station line up Scunthorpe towards platform 3b . Was testing the buttons and setting routes without trains and no timetable. if you set D308 route to D298 into platform 3b to D292 i.e. not the yellow triangle, the route will illuminate as expected however if you cancel the route it will give the 120 sec timeout - which I thought doesn't happen if there isnt a train in section is this a bug or a feature of the interlocking in this particular sim Log in to reply |
Cancel route oddity perhaps 29/12/2024 at 14:21 #159752 | |
slatteryc
272 posts |
ps seems to happen on all the routes ive tested but on other sims eg new street its as expected , if there aint a train in section then the route will release without timeout
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Cancel route oddity perhaps 29/12/2024 at 14:50 #159754 | |
kbarber
1765 posts |
Don't know what's specified for Doncaster, but in real life there were many boxes where the 120sec time-out applied as soon as the signal cleared, regardless of whether there was a train anywhere near. Comprehensive approach locking needed a lot more relays and circuitry; the extra £££ simply weren't in the budget when those boxes were built, except for a few locations within some boxes where it was expected routes might need to be pulled up and reset regularly and the time-out would cause problems.
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Cancel route oddity perhaps 29/12/2024 at 16:47 #159756 | |
Peter Bennet
5420 posts |
Cowlairs has 240s non-comprehensive approach locking on some signals. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
Cancel route oddity perhaps 29/12/2024 at 18:02 #159760 | |
pedroathome
917 posts |
kbarber in post 159754 said:Don't know what's specified for Doncaster, but in real life there were many boxes where the 120sec time-out applied as soon as the signal cleared, regardless of whether there was a train anywhere near. Comprehensive approach locking needed a lot more relays and circuitry; the extra £££ simply weren't in the budget when those boxes were built, except for a few locations within some boxes where it was expected routes might need to be pulled up and reset regularly and the time-out would cause problems.And in some boxes, some interlockings have comprehensive approach locking, and others don't, or even some signals in the same interlocking being different. Log in to reply |
Cancel route oddity perhaps 29/12/2024 at 18:16 #159761 | |
jc92
3702 posts |
Its accurate to the real box. Non comprehensive approach locking on all signals. certainly makes you think twice before setting routes in congested areas!
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Cancel route oddity perhaps 29/12/2024 at 23:32 #159767 | |
slatteryc
272 posts |
thanks - can this be added to the manual please as its tripped me up !
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Cancel route oddity perhaps 30/12/2024 at 04:27 #159769 | |
TUT
547 posts |
slatteryc in post 159767 said:thanks - can this be added to the manual please as its tripped me up !To be fair, it is all in the General Information section of the User Manuals & Wiki Quote: Approach lockingThere is also an entry in the glossary: https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=usertrack:glossary:approach_locking While some individual sim manuals do, I believe, warn of long or unusual approach locking timers, I'm not sure there's anything particularly noteworthy here. I'm actually a little bit surprised someone of your experience doesn't recall encountering this before. You must be very careful and precise! Last edited: 30/12/2024 at 04:27 by TUT Reason: None given Log in to reply |
Cancel route oddity perhaps Yesterday at 14:40 #159781 | |
slatteryc
272 posts |
hi I know what it is, I was just wondering if the fact that it there was no comprehensive approach locking on the Doncaster Station Sim anywhere could be added to the manual.
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