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| Length of Kingmoor UPL incorrect? 01/11/2020 at 13:42 #133455 | |
Albert
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2016 era. Kingmoor UPL is given as 489m on the panel, but in the attached screenshot a 549m long train fits in without any problem. Track circuit T702 has a length of 603m in the sim. Given the UTS is also >600m, is the text on the panel incorrect or from a different era? AJP in games Log in to reply |
| Length of Kingmoor UPL incorrect? 01/11/2020 at 13:59 #133456 | |
postal
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Albert in post 133455 said:2016 era. Kingmoor UPL is given as 489m on the panel, but in the attached screenshot a 549m long train fits in without any problem.Don't see the screen shot but at a guess you have the train fitting into the UPL signalled through to the position light signal CE453. The current sectional appendix show the lengths as: UPL: 484m (1588ft) (to signal CE463) 879m (2884ft) (to ground position signal CE453) UPS: 677m (2221ft) The text on the panel is correct +/- 5m in terms of identifying the length of the UPL where a train will not foul any other route. You can download the Sectional Appendices to check for yourself from this link. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Length of Kingmoor UPL incorrect? 01/11/2020 at 15:19 #133457 | |
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Albert
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I'm sorry, I forgot to attach the screenshot. I did not use the position light signal. The UTS as you gave it is nearly 200m longer than the UPL even though the tracks are adjacent - is signal CE453 placed 200m further to the back to provide an overlap that doesn't foul the points? Post has attachments. Log in to view them. AJP in games Last edited: 01/11/2020 at 15:21 by Albert Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Length of Kingmoor UPL incorrect? 01/11/2020 at 17:00 #133459 | |
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postal
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Albert in post 133457 said:I'm sorry, I forgot to attach the screenshot. I did not use the position light signal.Not as I gave it. As the official Network Rail Sectional Appendix gave it. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Length of Kingmoor UPL incorrect? 01/11/2020 at 17:47 #133460 | |
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TUT
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postal in post 133459 said:Not as I gave it. As the official Network Rail Sectional Appendix gave it.What you mean you didn't get out there with your tape measure for us? Log in to reply |
| Length of Kingmoor UPL incorrect? 01/11/2020 at 19:37 #133463 | |
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Albert
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I'm sorry for the wrong attribution to the data - but nevertheless the TC in the sim is quite a bit longer than what's in the sectional appendix and written on the panel in the sim. T703 (UPL) is 609 m, T704 (overlap) is 200m. The overlap explains why the UPL is (nearly) 200m shorter than the UTS but doesn't explain why there is a discrepancy between the official maximum train length and the length that fits in the sim. T706 A to D (UTS) are 907 m long together, also quite a bit longer than the displayed 695m (curiously T706B, the circuit of the points to siding 4-7, is only 2m in every direction.) T701 and T704 containing the points connecting the UTS and UPL are 50m in every direction so don't explain the discrepancy. Of course there can be good reasons to explain these - for a train changing crew in the loop, the location of a staff platform (if there is any) would also be relevant. AJP in games Log in to reply |