Loco Diagram/Working Database/Respsitory

Sorry, I completly forgot to mention that!

Was thinking of a digital repository for any time, any region, and to be of loco and mu's.

The way Robert Carroll has done his is by using a Google Drive, but not sure how that would be because of the size of the files. Any other way it could be done so that it would be open to all?

Stu

03piggs in post 145510 said:

Sorry, I completly forgot to mention that!

Was thinking of a digital repository for any time, any region, and to be of loco and mu's.

The way Robert Carroll has done his is by using a Google Drive, but not sure how that would be because of the size of the files. Any other way it could be done so that it would be open to all?

Stu

The work Robert Carroll has done has created an invaluable source of data for those creating SimSig heritage TTs (I'm sure 58050 and VInce will second that view). The data is held as part of the site dedicated to BR Loco-hauled Coaching Stock from 1948 (https://brcoachingstock.groups.io/g/main). To see how his repository is laid out, click on the "Files" link from the Group home page, then the "Carriage Workings" link and finally "BRCS_Carriage-Working-links_dd-mm-yy.pdf" - the date is updated when information is updated. IIRC you need to register to access the group but I have never had anything untoward sent to my e-mail since registering as far as I can tell.

In my collection of loco diagrams covering from the erly 1970s through to the mid 1990s is vast. I'd makea couple of points here. My collection cost me around £2,000 & some of the stuff I've got I had when I was a loco controller in BR days during my railway career. Apart from the fact that it would take a long time to scan it's not something I'd be prepared to do for free as I had to pay for most of it & also to scan it all would mean I'd have to stop all my timetabling projects for about a month which again isn't something I'd be prepared to do. I've got around 70+ sets of loco diagrams in total as a guess & many more things apart from that. Loco diagrams can be found on e-bay, but like the rest of us unless you kept back what you was given during your railway career which was free to enable you to do your job owt off e-bay costs money. Creating timetables for SimSig is something I want to do & I don't get paid for it[which I'm happy to do], but I'm also a stickler for accuracy when creating timetables hence I use loco diagrams for TTs I have the loco diagrams for as they show you what the loco is booked to do before & after the train it is diagrammed to work which WTTs don't tell you. Talking about scanning loco diagrams I'm about to scan some sets of loco diagrams for a close friend of mine who I've known for approx. 22 years. These diagrams are for Carlisle Kingmoor Depot Cl.40 loco diagrams dated 1980 & Cl.76 & Cl.77 DC electric loco diagrams for May, 1976 & May 1977. But I'm only doing this as he's a close friend.

58050 in post 145524 said:

In my collection of loco diagrams covering from the erly 1970s through to the mid 1990s is vast. I'd makea couple of points here. My collection cost me around £2,000 & some of the stuff I've got I had when I was a loco controller in BR days during my railway career. Apart from the fact that it would take a long time to scan it's not something I'd be prepared to do for free as I had to pay for most of it & also to scan it all would mean I'd have to stop all my timetabling projects for about a month which again isn't something I'd be prepared to do. I've got around 70+ sets of loco diagrams in total as a guess & many more things apart from that. Loco diagrams can be found on e-bay, but like the rest of us unless you kept back what you was given during your railway career which was free to enable you to do your job owt off e-bay costs money. Creating timetables for SimSig is something I want to do & I don't get paid for it[which I'm happy to do], but I'm also a stickler for accuracy when creating timetables hence I use loco diagrams for TTs I have the loco diagrams for as they show you what the loco is booked to do before & after the train it is diagrammed to work which WTTs don't tell you. Talking about scanning loco diagrams I'm about to scan some sets of loco diagrams for a close friend of mine who I've known for approx. 22 years. These diagrams are for Carlisle Kingmoor Depot Cl.40 loco diagrams dated 1980 & Cl.76 & Cl.77 DC electric loco diagrams for May, 1976 & May 1977. But I'm only doing this as he's a close friend.

I completely agree with you 58050.

All the diagrams I have, I have bought off of ebay, and I don't want to think about how much I have spent on them...

Personally, Id prefer something like a Google Drive, but for it to be for those that wish to contribute to it can add what they like. I appreciate that some won't want to contribute due to time, etc, and I respect that, but at the same time, id appreciate some to come forward, so we can see how viable something like this is...or maybe its a 'build it and they will come' sort of thing?

Any ideas would be appreciated because I'm a little stumped on what the best option is.

Stu

03piggs in post 145529 said:

58050 in post 145524 said:

In my collection of loco diagrams covering from the erly 1970s through to the mid 1990s is vast. I'd makea couple of points here. My collection cost me around £2,000 & some of the stuff I've got I had when I was a loco controller in BR days during my railway career. Apart from the fact that it would take a long time to scan it's not something I'd be prepared to do for free as I had to pay for most of it & also to scan it all would mean I'd have to stop all my timetabling projects for about a month which again isn't something I'd be prepared to do. I've got around 70+ sets of loco diagrams in total as a guess & many more things apart from that. Loco diagrams can be found on e-bay, but like the rest of us unless you kept back what you was given during your railway career which was free to enable you to do your job owt off e-bay costs money. Creating timetables for SimSig is something I want to do & I don't get paid for it[which I'm happy to do], but I'm also a stickler for accuracy when creating timetables hence I use loco diagrams for TTs I have the loco diagrams for as they show you what the loco is booked to do before & after the train it is diagrammed to work which WTTs don't tell you. Talking about scanning loco diagrams I'm about to scan some sets of loco diagrams for a close friend of mine who I've known for approx. 22 years. These diagrams are for Carlisle Kingmoor Depot Cl.40 loco diagrams dated 1980 & Cl.76 & Cl.77 DC electric loco diagrams for May, 1976 & May 1977. But I'm only doing this as he's a close friend.

I completely agree with you 58050.

All the diagrams I have, I have bought off of ebay, and I don't want to think about how much I have spent on them...

Personally, Id prefer something like a Google Drive, but for it to be for those that wish to contribute to it can add what they like. I appreciate that some won't want to contribute due to time, etc, and I respect that, but at the same time, id appreciate some to come forward, so we can see how viable something like this is...or maybe its a 'build it and they will come' sort of thing?

Any ideas would be appreciated because I'm a little stumped on what the best option is.

Stu

Loco diagrams by there very nature are very rare to come across. I was talking to another sim-sigger the other day & said to him if only back in the early 1990s you could have saved everything you printed off DIADS[which was the system BR used for traincrew & loco diagrams] & kept them all you'd need a fleet of artics to get it all moved as well as the booked loco diagrams which usually lasted 6 months to match the WTT change-overs you also had weekly & daily amendments too. That's how the loco controllers simplifiers were made up to do the job in the controls. They are as rare as hens teeth hence the reason they cost quite a bit to buy & as time marches on they'll get even rarer. DIADS system isn't used on todays railway from what I'm told. I kept some loco diagrams covering the post BR era dated 1994-95 covering Trainload Freight South East/Mainline Freight & some Trainload West aka Transrail & Trainload Freight NE aka Loadhaul. But those are the most up to date loco diagrrams I've got. Personally I'm more intereted in pre 1994 the BR period. The problem is the time it would take to scan them all. The other question is who would benefit from them cos not everyone on here writes BR era timetables? In some ways it's a good idea cos all the stuff you & I have is in paper format & if fire broke out you'd run the risk of losing everything whereas if it was all backup eletronically you'd still be able to replace any that got destroyed or damaged. That said it maybe worth sorting something out like you've mentionedas a backup for the future.

I think the WR link needs editing, as the "WR:" bit appears to be part of it.