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| TRTS and platform signal 24/09/2022 at 13:59 #148112 | |
bugsy
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I may have asked this question before so if I did then I apologise for asking it again. I remember standing on a station platform and seeing the signal at the end of the platform displaying a green aspect. This was before the TRTS button (plunger?) was pressed by a member of the station staff. I wondered whether this was normal practice, or should the signaller wait for TRTS? I quite often set a route from a station platform before I get the TRTS indication so that I can work on problems elsewhere in a sim. Does this initiate a penalty score in F5? Thanks. Bugsy Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Log in to reply |
| TRTS and platform signal 24/09/2022 at 15:59 #148118 | |
Hap
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Dundee springs to mind here. All 4 platforms have TRTS. Sometimes they are used but most times the signaller has just pulled off. The likes of Edinburgh, Glasgows, Aberdeen, Inverness all have to be TRTS by the dispatcher. How to report an issue: www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=usertrack:reportanissue Log in to reply |
| TRTS and platform signal 24/09/2022 at 16:27 #148123 | |
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bugsy
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Hap in post 148118 said:Dundee springs to mind here. All 4 platforms have TRTS. Sometimes they are used but most times the signaller has just pulled off.I thought as much. But do I get penalty point for doing it in the sim? Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Log in to reply |
| TRTS and platform signal 24/09/2022 at 16:29 #148124 | |
Steamer
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I think the Wembley Suburban simulation gives you a penalty if you clear the signal without waiting for TRTS, but this is the exception. Unless explicitly noted in the manual, you won't get a penalty for doing this. Whether it's desirable to pull off early in expectation is another question entirely and is left as an exercise for the reader.
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| TRTS and platform signal 24/09/2022 at 16:50 #148125 | |
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bugsy
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Steamer in post 148124 said:I think the Wembley Suburban simulation gives you a penalty if you clear the signal without waiting for TRTS, but this is the exception. Unless explicitly noted in the manual, you won't get a penalty for doing this. Whether it's desirable to pull off early in expectation is another question entirely and is left as an exercise for the reader.I generally only do it very shortly before a scheduled departure so as not to cause problems. Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Log in to reply |
| TRTS and platform signal 26/09/2022 at 09:00 #148159 | |
clive
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Steamer in post 148124 said:I think the Wembley Suburban simulation gives you a penalty if you clear the signal without waiting for TRTS, but this is the exception.Yes. It's in the SBSIs, so I added the penalty. Steamer in post 148124 said: That's right: the penalty has to be implemented by the developer; it's not in the core code. Log in to reply |
| TRTS and platform signal 26/09/2022 at 16:46 #148162 | |
GeoffM
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bugsy in post 148112 said:I remember standing on a station platform and seeing the signal at the end of the platform displaying a green aspect. This was before the TRTS button (plunger?) was pressed by a member of the station staff.A side note on this: if the signal is off, then pressing the TRTS button won't do anything as it would immediately reset with the signal off (IRL too). If the platform tracks are clear then TRTS won't do anything either, albeit under current standards but I'm aware older installations didn't always do this. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| TRTS and platform signal 23/10/2022 at 02:48 #148436 | |
Guts
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clive in post 148159 said:[quote=Steamer;post=148124]I think the Wembley Suburban simulation gives you a penalty if you clear the signal without waiting for TRTS, but this is the exception.Yes. It's in the SBSIs, so I added the penalty. This is not completely correct. Watford isn't included in the SBSI, we've been clearing the signals there in advance of TRTS for many years. Also WS32 and WS34 can be cleared if the train has proceeded directly from Stonebridge Depot and is the next to depart. The main reason this came about was because signallers were clearing the routes at the trains departure times and the driver had not changed ends or were not ready to depart and caused lots of delays. As trains from the depot have a driver at the front, we have that dispensation. Log in to reply |
| TRTS and platform signal 23/10/2022 at 18:36 #148441 | |
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clive
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Guts in post 148436 said:clive in post 148159 said:Wembley Mainline SBSI 06 June 2009:[quote=Steamer;post=148124]I think the Wembley Suburban simulation gives you a penalty if you clear the signal without waiting for TRTS, but this is the exception.Yes. It's in the SBSIs, so I added the penalty. Page 35: "You must not clear the following signals at Watford Junction until the associated Train Ready to Start plunger has been operated. WS.76 Platform 1 WS.78 Platform 2 WS.82 Platform 3 WS.84 Platform 4 " Page 38: "You must not clear the following signals until the associated 'Train Ready to Start' plunger has been operated: WS.32 Depot line 21 road WS.34 Depot line 22 road [...] You must not clear signal WS.307 for a train to depart from the Turn Back Siding before the Driver has operated the 'Train ready to Depart' plunger." Page 39: "You must not clear the following signal until the associated 'Turn Ready to Start' plunger has been operated: WS.18 Bay platform" Possibly newer SBSIs have different wording, but that's the one I was working with when I wrote the sim. Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Stephen Fulcher, Hap |