Warrington Summer 1992 TT

lazzer in post 155707 said:

58050 in post 155671 said:

lazzer in post 155670 said:

I don't own a licence for Warrington, but I may have to get one now, just to play another one of your crazy timetables, Pascal :-)

Why the hell not Neil. It is certainly a challenging TT if I say so myself & those who tested it would also agreed it does have it's moments. As one tester stated at times it's as busy as the Carlisle 79-80 TT.

Well, I did it.

And managed to challenge MYSELF by signalling a train into the MSC siding, and then absent-mindedly putting another one right in behind it instead of into Latchford! Much abandoning of timetables and reversing back and forth ensued to be able to release the engines for the run rounds LOL.

Oh well ...

I learnt from bitter experience that nominating two rows in the scratchpad for MSC and Latchford was better then relying on my memory!

postal in post 155713 said:

lazzer in post 155707 said:

58050 in post 155671 said:

lazzer in post 155670 said:

I don't own a licence for Warrington, but I may have to get one now, just to play another one of your crazy timetables, Pascal :-)

Why the hell not Neil. It is certainly a challenging TT if I say so myself & those who tested it would also agreed it does have it's moments. As one tester stated at times it's as busy as the Carlisle 79-80 TT.

Well, I did it.

And managed to challenge MYSELF by signalling a train into the MSC siding, and then absent-mindedly putting another one right in behind it instead of into Latchford! Much abandoning of timetables and reversing back and forth ensued to be able to release the engines for the run rounds LOL.
Oh well ...

I learnt from bitter experience that nominating two rows in the scratchpad for MSC and Latchford was better then relying on my memory!

The funny thing was, I WAS using the scratchpad, but I thought I'd put the first train in Latchford (and typed that into the scratchpad), when I'd actually put it in MSC. hence the chaos that ensued :-)

You won't make that mistake again Neil.

58050 in post 155736 said:

You won't make that mistake again Neil.

I got to around 11am and decided to restart, but this time with three random scenarios selected.

I've currently got most of the main/fast line between Wigan and Warrington closed, which should make it a bit more interesting now :-)

lazzer in post 155746 said:

58050 in post 155736 said:

You won't make that mistake again Neil.

I got to around 11am and decided to restart, but this time with three random scenarios selected.

I've currently got most of the main/fast line between Wigan and Warrington closed, which should make it a bit more interesting now :-)

Let me know how you get on Neil as the TT was written & tested without any scenarios running. Hope you didn't start again cos it wasn't busy enough for you?

lazzer in post 155746 said:

58050 in post 155736 said:

You won't make that mistake again Neil.

I got to around 11am and decided to restart, but this time with three random scenarios selected.

I've currently got most of the main/fast line between Wigan and Warrington closed, which should make it a bit more interesting now :-)

Let me know how you get on Neil as the TT was written & tested without any scenarios running. Hope you didn't start again cos it wasn't busy enough for you?

58050 in post 155748 said:

lazzer in post 155746 said:

58050 in post 155736 said:

You won't make that mistake again Neil.

I got to around 11am and decided to restart, but this time with three random scenarios selected.

I've currently got most of the main/fast line between Wigan and Warrington closed, which should make it a bit more interesting now :-)

Let me know how you get on Neil as the TT was written & tested without any scenarios running. Hope you didn't start again cos it wasn't busy enough for you?

I'm up to 01.05, and regulating trains at Golborne Junction is already an interesting puzzle that needs to be kept an eye on. It will only get worse when the passenger trains start running. An interesting by-product of having only the Down Fast blocked between Warrington and Winwick Junction is that down trains have to run on the Up Slow in the down direction, and while one is doing that you might be able to sneak an up train across Winwick and onto the Up Fast so the railway becomes right-hand running for a short while. Using the Up Slow for movements in both directions is just silly.

lazzer in post 155755 said:

58050 in post 155748 said:

lazzer in post 155746 said:

58050 in post 155736 said:

You won't make that mistake again Neil.

I got to around 11am and decided to restart, but this time with three random scenarios selected.

I've currently got most of the main/fast line between Wigan and Warrington closed, which should make it a bit more interesting now :-)

Let me know how you get on Neil as the TT was written & tested without any scenarios running. Hope you didn't start again cos it wasn't busy enough for you?

I'm up to 01.05, and regulating trains at Golborne Junction is already an interesting puzzle that needs to be kept an eye on. It will only get worse when the passenger trains start running. An interesting by-product of having only the Down Fast blocked between Warrington and Winwick Junction is that down trains have to run on the Up Slow in the down direction, and while one is doing that you might be able to sneak an up train across Winwick and onto the Up Fast so the railway becomes right-hand running for a short while. Using the Up Slow for movements in both directions is just silly.

Strictly speaking, I don't think this scenario would have been possible in 1992- as far as I know the bi-di from Dallam to Winwick was only installed in the late 90s when Dallam RMT was built.

Just a little error.

6M241656MTHO is set to run on TUE and FRI.

tjtbcork in post 155752 said:

Just a little error.

6M241656MTHO is set to run on TUE and FRI.

I think you've put the wrong UID up as this train doesn't exist in my Warrington 1992 TT.

tjtbcork in post 155752 said:

Just a little error.

6M241656MTHO is set to run on TUE and FRI.

I think you've put the wrong UID up as this train doesn't exist in my Warrington 1992 TT.

58050 in post 155760 said:

tjtbcork in post 155752 said:

Just a little error.

6M241656MTHO is set to run on TUE and FRI.

I think you've put the wrong UID up as this train doesn't exist in my Warrington 1992 TT.

If the poster means 6M64 then the confusion has arisen as the train is booked to depart Elgin at 1656 MTHO meaning that after its long trek from the North of Scotland and nice rests at Mossend and possibly Carlisle it is on the Warrington panel TFO.

Ya that is the mistake I made. Sorry!

More of an era question as I've seen it in various BR-era TTs for Warrington, but why wasn't P6 at Wigan used for turnback passenger services? Was WN25 a later addition or was it seen to be less preferable despite the need for trains using 2/3 to cross the up and down mains? Or was it simply easier for transfer from trains from Scotland?

More of an era question as I've seen it in various BR-era TTs for Warrington, but why wasn't P6 at Wigan used for turnback passenger services? Was WN25 a later addition or was it seen to be less preferable despite the need for trains using 2/3 to cross the up and down mains? Or was it simply easier for transfer from trains from Scotland?

Sorry to be a pain but I've got a problem.

6T75 has exited Springs Branch Sidings and is due to go to Bickershaw Colliery. I've tried to set a route but each time it says "Route not available"

I checked the manual but there's nothing explaining how to set a route to the colliery. I've even tried setting the route in reverse but that didn't work Is it something to do with the 'RESET' button? If not, then what do I need to do please?

I don't think that a save is required but I've attached one anyway.
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bugsy in post 155810 said:

Sorry to be a pain but I've got a problem.

6T75 has exited Springs Branch Sidings and is due to go to Bickershaw Colliery. I've tried to set a route but each time it says "Route not available"

I checked the manual but there's nothing explaining how to set a route to the colliery. I've even tried setting the route in reverse but that didn't work Is it something to do with the 'RESET' button? If not, then what do I need to do please?

I don't think that a save is required but I've attached one anyway.
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The manual explains the procedure for Weaste:

"By default, the OTW is set to Occupied, allowing a train to enter from Weaste. Should you first wish to send a train towards Weaste, or to reset the OTW after a track circuit failure, first, right-click on the OTW reset button. This will begin flashing. After 120 seconds, the OTW reset button will stop flashing. At this point, right click the reset button."

The same principal applies at Bickershaw.

The Manual on the Wiki is locked and I don't have the relevant permission to edit the page so I have passed the request up the tree that the manual be updated accordingly.