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Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 07/06/2024 at 21:34 #156498 | |
flappy boi
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I've just uploaded the timetable for approval This is a less stressful timetable as it's a Sunday. Trains are diverted onto the NLL instead of continuing to Euston due to engineering works Willesden Jn on RTT - Trains will not use HL platforms (4 or 5) https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:WIJ/2024-06-16/0645-0045?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=LO Service updates from NR https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/engineering-works/richmond-clapham-junction-and-gospel-oak-20240616/ Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 08/06/2024 at 12:06 #156505 | |
flappy boi
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Updated again last night to fix the 1400 seed issue, still waiting for new approval...
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Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 09/06/2024 at 11:18 #156519 | |
flappy boi
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While testing I found that O745 cannot spawn at 21 (Stonebridge Depot) while A203 is on 22 around 12:32 The O745 will spawn at 21 right after A203 leaves 22 Attached is the save game at 12:32 The other thing to note is that the overlap set from WS24 to WS22 does not swing to Kensal Gn Jn when WS23 is set to WS25. The workaround is to set WS22 to HL1102, then pull WS22 immediately when paused. I'd like to hear a better way of doing this ![]() Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 10/06/2024 at 00:39 #156524 | |
clive
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flappy boi in post 156519 said:The depot staff have signalled A203 into the depot, therefore blocking the exit for O745. I don't think they like trains standing around on the arrival roads. Mantis 36420 is already open for this. flappy boi in post 156519 said: The problem here is that 507 points, as well as being the facing turnout towards Kensal Green Jn, is also the catch points for something running back from HL1102. Therefore signal 22 only has the one main overlap, towards Euston, and the overlap can't be swung - notice there's no overlap symbol on that route. This is explicit in both the control tables and the signalling scheme plan. However, there is a warning route from 24 to 22 with a reduced overlap as well as the main route; this doesn't require 507 normal. Use that (click on 24 then click on the yellow arrow next to 22). Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 10/06/2024 at 01:31 #156526 | |
flappy boi
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clive in post 156524 said:
oooooooooh thats trade secrets... 👀 Here's what I think will work (which I will try tomorrow): Let I203 SPAR WS37 with points keyed towards 22 Road (before I203 leaves SBP and turns into A203). Do not set any route in the process. Interpose A203 at WS34, cancel TD at WS37. (its's attached so you can try it for me) clive in post 156524 said:
I'm 100% aware of the approached controlled method and it's definitely more legal than what I do but I thought it'd be nice to have WS24 auto'ed as I tend to forget trains that are on the edge of the display 😂 Having the warner set means I can't have 24 auto'ed. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 10/06/2024 at 09:29 #156528 | |
clive
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flappy boi in post 156526 said:clive in post 156524 said:Not particularly. Actually, it's the only issue open against WembleySub. flappy boi in post 156526 said: I don't need to try it. I know it won't work. The correct answer is to alter the timetable to send it into the depot. If you were only waiting for a minute or two, that would be different; you can just live with the delay. But you aren't. flappy boi in post 156526 said: clive in post 156524 said:What do you think the real signallers do? They have to set the routes by hand in this case, because that's what the interlocking requires. This isn't a bug or an omission; it's an exact implementation of the real thing. Last edited: 10/06/2024 at 09:30 by clive Reason: None given Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 10/06/2024 at 18:36 #156534 | |
flappy boi
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clive in post 156528 said:
Indeed 🤣 Just tried it... clive in post 156528 said:
I've made I203(C37157) go to the depot and made the A203(C38329) enter from road 22 with rules stating that A203 should enter 0 minutes after I203 leave my area, but O745 won't enter until WS34 is off for A203 (save game with modified tt attached tho) Seems like the depot isn't happy with both roads occupied from any direction... I wonder which rule I should use clive in post 156528 said:
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's a bug. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 11/06/2024 at 00:18 #156538 | |
clive
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If I remember, the problem was that A203 was sitting on the departure road for ages. You should schedule it to enter a minute or two before it's due to head out on to the main line. The depot staff assume that anything sitting around for too long wants to go (back) into the depot. Mantis 36420 is about re-educating them.
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Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 11/06/2024 at 19:57 #156547 | |
flappy boi
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clive in post 156538 said:If I remember, the problem was that A203 was sitting on the departure road for ages. You should schedule it to enter a minute or two before it's due to head out on to the main line. The depot staff assume that anything sitting around for too long wants to go (back) into the depot. Mantis 36420 is about re-educating them.Re-educating them sounds so scary... Guess I should add a new rule to make the depot send A203 after they send O745 Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 12/06/2024 at 08:12 #156548 | |
kbarber
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flappy boi in post 156547 said:clive in post 156538 said:Re-educating Willesden shunters is indeed a scary prospect... rather Clive than me!!!!If I remember, the problem was that A203 was sitting on the departure road for ages. You should schedule it to enter a minute or two before it's due to head out on to the main line. The depot staff assume that anything sitting around for too long wants to go (back) into the depot. Mantis 36420 is about re-educating them.Re-educating them sounds so scary... Guess I should add a new rule to make the depot send A203 after they send O745 Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 12/06/2024 at 10:55 #156549 | |
flappy boi
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kbarber in post 156548 said:Re-educating Willesden shunters... Whats wrong with Willesden 💀💀💀 Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 12/06/2024 at 11:43 #156550 | |
geswedey
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Upset a Willesden shunter about 30 years ago when I uncoupled a Loco at the Drivers request from a DOO freightliner that I had been cab riding as the Shunter hadn't appeared after we had been in the sidings for quite awhile. If I remember correctly we were light back to Stratford MPD having come from Ipswich where I had been doing Guards freight trains loads and train prep training in the yard.
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Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 13/06/2024 at 08:10 #156560 | |
kbarber
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flappy boi in post 156549 said:kbarber in post 156548 said:Willesden shunters could be good lads when they'd a mind to be... a bit of a rough and ready lot (you learned a good deal of Patois bad language in their company, if nowt else) but once they sussed that you meant business - and that you played fair - they could work miracles. (It was a proud moment when a Nuneaton driver, bringing 7A45 (from memory) into the yard and finding himself hooked off almost before he'd come to stand, asked: "What you done, got the whip out?"Re-educating Willesden shunters... ![]() Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 13/06/2024 at 14:38 #156563 | |
flappy boi
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clive in post 156528 said:Fixed without sending A203 to depot by making O745 enter 10 minutes early, now the shunter is happy Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 13/06/2024 at 19:39 #156572 | |
flappy boi
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New version is live here Version 2 - Added rules to all trains - No more duplicated headcodes - A206-1 and O745-1 tweaked to depart 2 and 10 minutes earlier than the WTT timings respectively to make SPD shunters happy Feel free to report issues here... (hope there isn't any) 8 Sept 2024 may be my next timetable, it seems quite fun to see Willesden plat 2 in regular use https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:WIJ/2024-09-08/1000?toc=LO Last edited: 14/06/2024 at 17:42 by flappy boi Reason: now live Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 15/06/2024 at 12:04 #156585 | |
flappy boi
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Issue found around 14:25 where I745-2 not entering depot via 21 road because A223 is on 22 Road (or simply SB1 won't clear for I745-2) Workaround - make it SPAD in the trains tab in F11 Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion 21/06/2024 at 14:44 #157635 | |
flappy boi
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flappy boi in post 156585 said:Issue found around 14:25 where I745-2 not entering depot via 21 road because A223 is on 22 Road similar issues found around 2200, 2215, 2230 and 2245 other issue: J224-L enters an hour late because of a typo in a rule (should be 60 mins after A224-K leaves instead of 120mins) Log in to reply |
Wembley Suburban 16 June 2024 Willesden Diversion Today at 17:05 #158213 | |
flappy boi
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2.1 Updated - waiting for approval https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/55625 Changes - all 120 minutes in the rules changed to 60 minutes to assume the signallers at Baker St can curtail late trains Log in to reply |