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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 15:26 #37117
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Glasgow Queen Street, September 1985. Cl.37 with boiler on full chat awaits departure for Fort William.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 15:29 #37118
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Cl.117 DMUs stabled at Oxford carriage sdgs during a weekend in September, 1985.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 15:35 #37119
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Can't remember which signalbox at Taunton this was. It was the one at the Exeter end of Taunton station. Photo taken in September 1985. If anyone knows please edit or let me know & I'll edit it.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 15:42 #37120
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March East Junction signal box taken in 1987.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 15:45 #37121
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Passing the signal box at New Mills on the line between Stockport & Sheffield behind 31424 on 1985 heading towards Sheffield.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 16:08 #37124
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Another train I took a number of photos of at Tempsford Crossing between Sandy & St. Neots on the ECML was 'The Nightrider' service from London King's Cross - Aberdeen. Here 47653 working 1S70 during the summer of 1987 on the Down Fast line. Note the 3 motorail GUVs behind the loco followed by Mk.3 sleepers & Mk.2D/e/f day coaches. The train would have somewhere between 14 - 16 coaches in total.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 17:15 #37128
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i thought motorails were always marshalled flats/GUVs trailing except under exceptional circumstances?
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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 17:17 #37129
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47535 'University of Leicester' inside the fueller at Old Oak Common TMD in July 1987.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 17:20 #37130
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That may have been the case in the 1970s to early 1980s, but when this photo was taken the motorail GUVs were always marshalled behind the loco. I saw this train on numerous occasions it was one of two 'Nightrider' services from King's Cross to Scotland & the motorail GUVs on both trains were behind the loco.
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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 17:34 #37131
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The train I just got off 45124 at Manchester Victoria in September 1985 working a Newcastle - Liverpool Lime Street service.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 17:52 #37132
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Heading towards Exeter St. Davids passing under the signal gantry at the Exeter end of Taunton station in September 1985.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 17:59 #37133
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I took this photo from the footbridge in the coal discharging plant at Northfleet Blue Circle cement works. Here 56064 has rrived at journeys end working 7O30 2028 SX MGR Toton New Bank - Northfleet BCI. The loco will go through on slow speed notch 1 & discharge the coal for the 3 rotating kilns that were in operation at this time. Photo taken in 1987.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 18:29 #37134
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Can't remember which signalbox at Taunton this was. It was the one at the Exeter end of Taunton station. Photo taken in September 1985. If anyone knows please edit or let me know & I'll edit it.
box is Taunton west Station

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 18:58 #37136
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Photo taken from the inside of Immingham Reception signal box of 08632 covering T.01 Immingham Pilot Trip on 170696.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 19:09 #37137
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New kids on the block 58050 'Toton Traction Depot' & 58049 'Littleton Colliery' stand on the shed front at Toton TMD with other Cl.58s & Cl.20s one of them being 20196 on 150587. You can still get to the top of the bank at Toton, however the view has changed dramatically.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 19:18 #37138
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Reading based Departmental loco 97653 (PWM653) working in an engineers possession during a Sunday in September 1985. The lines behind the loco are the lines that run down Acton bank from Acton Wells Junction to Acton East Junction.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 19:24 #37139
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Welsh's Bridge Junction signal box at Inverness un September 1985. Picture taken looking towards Inverness station.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 19:28 #37140
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Another view of Welsh's Bridge Junction signal box at Inverness this time looking towards Aberdeen.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 19:39 #37141
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37504'British Steel Corby'+37505'British Steel Workington' approach Toton Centre for a crew change working 6M47 1050 SX COY Lackenby BSC - Corby BSC on 100787. Note the Toton TMD breakdown crane in the back ground. Toton TMD at this time did not have the capability of lifting power units using an overhead crane within the TMD until EWD extended part of the shed building to accommodate one in 1997. To facilitate power units lifts the breakdown crane at Toton TMD was used.

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Photo Gallery 01/11/2012 at 19:44 #37142
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60010 stands outside the newly constructed extension to the front of Toton TMD where the new overhead crane was installed capable of lifting power units & thus no longer requiring the use of the breakdown crane to do it. Photo taken on 130497.

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Photo Gallery 02/11/2012 at 10:53 #37166
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Generator 47411'The Geordie' inside B&C shed at Stratford TMD 271086.

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Photo Gallery 02/11/2012 at 10:59 #37168
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Generator 47420 at London Liverpool Street on 271086.

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Photo Gallery 02/11/2012 at 12:04 #37171
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i thought motorails were always marshalled flats/GUVs trailing except under exceptional circumstances?

The all-year GUV motorail services were always referred to as the "tail traffic" when I was Motorail supervisor at Kensington (summer 1981) so on the face of it that would be correct. But putting the GUVs at the head northbound would make shunting at KX or Euston an awful lot easier - putting them at the tail would require either a long shunt of the loaded passenger coaches onto the GUVs in the loading bay or the GUVs loaded and placed in the platform before the rest of the train was brought in. (The latter manoeuvre would've been a lot harder at the Cross as well, as there was no equivalent to the BORs that Euston has). Shunting at the Scottish destination was probably less of an issue, as most of them were through stations (Inverness the big exception, although I don't know how Motorail was dealt with there).

On the other hand, GUVs trailing on the up journey would certainly facilitate the shunting at a London terminus.

The summer-only services from Kensington (which used only carflats by the late '70s, although I believe they used Cartic 4s in the early days) were certainly marshalled with flats in rear, involving a shunt with loaded passenger coaches as the first move in the departure sequence. (Those heading for Scotland then had an engine change within 5 miles as well, although the St Austell was able to get away without further messing around.) Kensington North Main was signalled accordingly, with FPLs on all ends of everything and just about any imaginable move able to be made with passengers loaded!

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Photo Gallery 02/11/2012 at 13:52 #37173
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47657 working 1S70 London King's Cross - Aberdeen 'Nightrider' service past Tempsford Crossing during the summer of 1987. Again the motorail GUVs marshaled behind the loco.

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Photo Gallery 02/11/2012 at 15:25 #37175
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Brunswick Green liveried Cl.20s 20064'River Sheaf'+20030'River Rother' head north out of Toton Centre with an empty MGR train on 150587.

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