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| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 01/03/2012 at 01:00 #30254 | |
Stephen Fulcher
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There is one booked to stand in the Up Goods Loop at Banbury one night a week (Think its Wednesday?) to wait its path along the Chiltern Branch as it is a Class 7 so doesn't fit inbetween the 100mph Class 168s very well. They are definitely formed of 2x20 - BARRIER - S STOCK - BARRIER - 2x20. Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 01/03/2012 at 06:44 #30255 | |
Peter Bennet
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Just had a quick check on iplayer and at 15:07 there is a shot of a set of S stock moving on what looks like that main line under some wires with no loco on the front- which is why I thought I was correct. On another note, we now know who the chap is who's reponsible for installing the "sensitive edge" doors that are the curse of the Victoria line every day. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Last edited: 01/03/2012 at 06:49 by Peter Bennet Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 01/03/2012 at 09:34 #30256 | |
andyb0607
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Excuse the poor photo! Taken in a hurry from the window of the office I was working at in Harrow with my iphone. As you can see they definitely go out with 4Xclass 20 and 2 barrier wagons for the collection of the latest S Stock.  As I understood it they came back top and tailed and then the front 2 class 20's and the barrier was removed and it is pushed the last few hundred yards into the depot. Peter - the sensitive edge doors don't "seem" to cause as many issues on the S stock. Since the start of the year I've been using both Met and Victoria lines and the doors have caused problems virtually every day on Vic line but only once on the S Stock! Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 01/03/2012 at 09:57 #30257 | |
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derbybest
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Peter what do you expect it's the BBC after all 
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| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 01/03/2012 at 10:54 #30258 | |
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Peter Bennet
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" said:Peter what do you expect it's the BBC after all :laugh:I'd accept that logically it's probably a misunderstanding by the commentator if it were not for the clip of video at 15.07 minutes into the program which clearly shows the stock moving forward with no loco present on what appears to be the main line in the middle of nowhere. That gives some credibility to the comment made. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 01/03/2012 at 11:53 #30259 | |
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andyb0607
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Could well be the testing on the old dalby test track? http://www.old-dalby.com/ssl_testing.htm Last edited: 01/03/2012 at 11:53 by andyb0607 Reason: missing link Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 01/03/2012 at 13:04 #30260 | |
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MikeW
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" said:There is one booked to stand in the Up Goods Loop at Banbury one night a week (Think its Wednesday?) to wait its path along the Chiltern Branch as it is a Class 7 so doesn't fit inbetween the 100mph Class 168s very well.Locomaster have just brought out a 'Wired for Sound' driver's eye view of this. It's called '8X09' and covers the section from Asfordby to Banbury, with 3hrs 15min of footage (incidentally a chunk of which features the Saltley area). Very interesting and worth picking up, if you get a chance. Mike Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 01/03/2012 at 13:17 #30261 | |
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Peter Bennet
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" said:Could well be the testing on the old dalby test track?Ha- that seem to be a highly plausible explanation - thanks mystery appears to be resolved. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 01/03/2012 at 13:38 #30262 | |
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handle
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I've been watching the program, its quite good i think.
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| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 01/03/2012 at 17:43 #30263 | |
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delticfan
476 posts |
I've watched the first two episodes, good programme. I also wondered about the 20s pushing the new stock into the depot and thinking that would be a heck of a driving job to push it all the way. Reading other posts on this has answered the question.
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| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 01/03/2012 at 18:33 #30264 | |
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metcontrol
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" said:On another note, we now know who the chap is who's reponsible for installing the "sensitive edge" doors that are the curse of the Victoria line every day.That would be a case of "don't shoot the messenger." He is only installing them as per the design spec  The sensitive edge on the S-stock is of a slightly different design. We encounter less problems partly due to this difference, and also due to other factors such as train shape (the 09 is smaller / more curved for the tube tunnels) and train loadings (09s are generally have higher crush loadings than the S-stock). Education on how to deal with activations has also meant delays are less on both the Vic and Met lines. On the subject of delivery, another stock was successfully delivered last night (after a few brake problems north of Aylesbury). The formation was definately 2xClass 20s+Barrier+S-stock+Barrier+2xClass 20s - as I watched via CCTV through most stations on the journey from Amersham to Neasden depot. Last edited: 01/03/2012 at 18:35 by metcontrol Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 06:40 #30427 | |
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maxand
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Signallers and drivers, both professional and armchair, should find episode 3 very interesting.
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| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 16:07 #30439 | |
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UKTrainMan
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I, and a pretty much everyone I follow on Twitter (who Tweeted their thoughts), found episode three tough. A lot of the Tweets again complimented it on a good episode (well produced, I assume) but said it was tough viewing. There were certainly some moments where it had me in absolute silence. Now to look forward to episode four *ducks* :whistle: Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 16:30 #30441 | |
Splodge
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I found it fascinating, and was very pleased they didn't try and gloss over things - the real reactions of staff made it all the more compelling.
There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 16:35 #30442 | |
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andyb0607
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I found the episode very well produced, as the whole series has been. One thing puzzles me though. Anyone know why the station roundels were pixelated and they made sure they didn't announce any station names for the fatalities? Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 16:38 #30443 | |
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ExDistrictDriver
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" said:I found the episode very well produced, as the whole series has been.The only reason I can think is to try to minimise the ability to recognise a particular fatality, to spare any upset for the families? Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 16:55 #30444 | |
NCC1701
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" said:" said:They missed one - station name clearly visible for a brief moment. Begins with an E and has a SimSig named after it...I found the episode very well produced, as the whole series has been.The only reason I can think is to try to minimise the ability to recognise a particular fatality, to spare any upset for the families? Signalman Exeter West & Llangollen Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 18:36 #30449 | |
northroad
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Exeter!
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| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 18:37 #30450 | |
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Splodge
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Did they? I'm sure they made several references to the locations when I watched it :huh:
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| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 18:59 #30451 | |
jc92
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" said:" said:to be fair, how many people were killed by underground trains on the day of the notting hill carnival?I found the episode very well produced, as the whole series has been.The only reason I can think is to try to minimise the ability to recognise a particular fatality, to spare any upset for the families? "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 19:03 #30452 | |
Temple Meads
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" said:Exeter!Nah it's got to be Edinburgh Anyway, I've really enjoyed every episode of this, best documentary I've seen for donkeys years! Username TIM in multiplayer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: northroad |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 19:40 #30455 | |
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metcontrol
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As far as blotting out station names, whilst some can be worked out (for instance the incident I was filmed as controller for on this program) the relatively recent filming means that some are still subject to coroner proceedings - certainly the one on Notting Hill Carnival day anyway. That aside, whilst the families concerned were approached, it is still more tactful to leave certain details out to preserve some respect. Don't forget that, for certain similar reasons, peoples faces are also blurred - in particular when fair dodgers are featured. At the time of filming and possibly at broadcast, they could still be "alleged" fair-dodgers. Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 19:53 #30456 | |
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Peter Bennet
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" said:I wondered what the policy was on that- some were left in (some of the objectionable boneheads for example), while others were blotted out. I figured it maybe to do with the "unproven" aspect. Just as an aside- do you need to tap in/out with a season ticket Oyster (other than to work the gates)- you certainly don't with the National Rail card type. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 20:48 #30458 | |
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guidomcc
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" said:(for instance the incident I was filmed as controller for on this program)were you in it then? :woohoo: Log in to reply |
| Re: BBC Two are going deeper Underground in new docu. 07/03/2012 at 21:48 #30460 | |
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metcontrol
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" said:Just as an aside- do you need to tap in/out with a season ticket Oyster (other than to work the gates)- you certainly don't with the National Rail card type.I have a "staff pass", which is basically a full-time travelcard (with a few restrictions compared the normal travelcard). My NR ticket runs from my home station to King's Cross - the barriers at which only accept my paper season ticket and not my staff pass. Last edited: 07/03/2012 at 21:48 by metcontrol Log in to reply |