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| Ringing signaller when held at red signal 02/05/2012 at 18:50 #32061 | |
greatkingrat
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In Simsig trains always ring up once they have been held at a red signal for 2 minutes. Does this always happen in real life or can drivers use common sense to decide whether to phone or not? For example if a freight train is signalled into a loop, it is fairly obvious that you are going to stay there until at least one train has gone past you and there would not be much point ringing up immediately.
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| Re: Ringing signaller when held at red signal 02/05/2012 at 18:52 #32062 | |
headshot119
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The current rulebook instructs drivers to ring up immediately if they can't see a reason for being stopped at a signal.
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| Re: Ringing signaller when held at red signal 02/05/2012 at 18:55 #32063 | |
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Hpotter
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IIRC, the standard has now changed for real life, where a driver will call in waiting at Red signal, as soon as the driver comes to a stand. (Unless your an ex-Southern driver :whistle: ) Some cases is that the signal has a black and white diagonal shevron board with a numerical value of how long to wait before calling. Log in to reply |
| Re: Ringing signaller when held at red signal 02/05/2012 at 19:32 #32065 | |
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mfcooper
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Drivers have been known to use their eyes - plenty at work do not call in if they can see a train travelling over a conflicting route in front of them.
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| Re: Ringing signaller when held at red signal 02/05/2012 at 19:42 #32066 | |
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guidomcc
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New feature perhaps - drivers don't call if TC in front them is occupied? -Would have to be intelligent enough for them to call if it's a TCF, so maybe if the TC in front of the train is occupied then they wait slightly longer before calling? Log in to reply |
| Re: Ringing signaller when held at red signal 02/05/2012 at 19:44 #32067 | |
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UKTrainMan
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" said:Some cases is that the signal has a black and white diagonal shevron board with a numerical value of how long to wait before calling.As demonstrated on this page (9.33 and 9.34) and shown on this page. Have only ever seen or noticed such a sign once, as far as I can recall - the Platform starter on the Down Main at West Drayton (Great Western Main Line). I believe it was 0 minutes, but I can't fathom why it's needed there, though. edited to add " said: New feature perhaps - drivers don't call if TC in front them is occupied?How do the drivers know that the TC in-front of them is occupied?? 
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| Re: Ringing signaller when held at red signal 02/05/2012 at 20:54 #32069 | |
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Backup
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" said:Well, I imagine that for some small junction-based TCs you could see the 5mph tamper shuffling its way across in front of you... Log in to reply |
| Re: Ringing signaller when held at red signal 02/05/2012 at 21:59 #32070 | |
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JamesN
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Quote:Have only ever seen or noticed such a sign once, as far as I can recall - the Platform starter on the Down Main at West Drayton (Great Western Main Line). I believe it was 0 minutes, but I can't fathom why it's needed there, though.The Down Main starter at West Drayton (DM13) is fitted with an emergency replacement switch on the panel - it's highly likely that any train held there at Red is because of the Signallers Actions rather than a train in section ahead. It's therefore prudent that the driver contact the signaller immediately as to why the stoppage has occured. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: UKTrainMan |
| Re: Ringing signaller when held at red signal 02/05/2012 at 22:52 #32071 | |
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UKTrainMan
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" said:Quote:Ahhhh, of course!! Thanks for that, James.Have only ever seen or noticed such a sign once, as far as I can recall - the Platform starter on the Down Main at West Drayton (Great Western Main Line). I believe it was 0 minutes, but I can't fathom why it's needed there, though.The Down Main starter at West Drayton (DM13) is fitted with an emergency replacement switch on the panel - it's highly likely that any train held there at Red is because of the Signallers Actions rather than a train in section ahead. It's therefore prudent that the driver contact the signaller immediately as to why the stoppage has occured. Note to self: pay slightly more attention next time - the signal has an automatic plate above the identification plate! Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Last edited: 02/05/2012 at 22:58 by UKTrainMan Log in to reply |
| Re: Ringing signaller when held at red signal 23/05/2012 at 14:28 #32506 | |
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MrBitsy
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Doesn't apply to some freight drivers who will wait tens of minutes 
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| Re: Ringing signaller when held at red signal 24/05/2012 at 21:37 #32537 | |
BarryM
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" said:Doesn't apply to some freight drivers who will wait tens of minutes :PHaving crib? Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |