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| LONDON OVERGROUND TRAIN LENGTHENING APPROVED 15/02/2013 at 01:07 #41539 | |
BarryM
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An item courtesy of Railway Gazette International. A £320m programme to extend London Overground's 57 Class 378 EMUs from four to five cars is approved.Read More.. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Last edited: 15/02/2013 at 01:07 by BarryM Log in to reply |
| LONDON OVERGROUND TRAIN LENGTHENING APPROVED 15/02/2013 at 11:07 #41551 | |
TimTamToe
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" said:An item courtesy of Railway Gazette International.Does seem a little short sighted that when all the infrastructure works were done for LO in the first place that they were not done to accomodate longer trains in the future seeing as that passenger numbers were only ever going to increase. Gareth Log in to reply |
| LONDON OVERGROUND TRAIN LENGTHENING APPROVED 16/02/2013 at 09:45 #41580 | |
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kbarber
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" said:" said:An item courtesy of Railway Gazette International.Does seem a little short sighted that when all the infrastructure works were done for LO in the first place that they were not done to accomodate longer trains in the future seeing as that passenger numbers were only ever going to increase. But were they? The North London seemed to be on life-support for several decades; although the frequency was never reduced below 3-per-hour there was no overcrowding when, in the 1980s, they reduced the trains from 3- to 2-car and, when the 3-car 313s were brought in, there was always loads of space available. It's only in recent years that usage has taken off so spectacularly (albeit the 378s and the much more frequent service has led to it positively exploding, with 8 per hour now well filled). Sadly, after several generations of managing for decline, there aren't yet enough railway managers who are farsighted enough to see what current growth really means. Equally, I fear many of them don't have the skills some of their 'old BR' predecessors had at making financial cases for additional facilities, particularly where cross-interface working is required in a deeply fragmented organisation. Log in to reply |
| LONDON OVERGROUND TRAIN LENGTHENING APPROVED 16/02/2013 at 10:02 #41581 | |
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TimTamToe
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" said:It's only in recent years that usage has taken off so spectacularly (albeit the 378s and the much more frequent service has led to it positively exploding, with 8 per hour now well filled).Yeah I agree. I was thinking about recently when they were doing the upgrades ready for the introduction of the 378s and ELL with all the predictive passenger number computer forecasts extra rather than the NLL part. Especially where if I remember correctly Southern lost some of their paths to accomodate the ELL Crystal Palace / W Croydon sections. Just seems most things these days are reactive rather than proactive and foresighted. Any scheme now by the time it has been agreed, passed through government, funded etc is outdated before its opened. Log in to reply |
| LONDON OVERGROUND TRAIN LENGTHENING APPROVED 16/02/2013 at 10:46 #41582 | |
Peter Bennet
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On the other hand if there is an attempt to forward plan massive infrastructure projects then we are "told" that it's a massive waste of money on something we don't need. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| LONDON OVERGROUND TRAIN LENGTHENING APPROVED 16/02/2013 at 12:47 #41583 | |
postal
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" said:On the other hand if there is an attempt to forward plan massive infrastructure projects then we are "told" that it's a massive waste of money on something we don't need.HS2, anyone? “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| LONDON OVERGROUND TRAIN LENGTHENING APPROVED 17/02/2013 at 13:53 #41596 | |
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kbarber
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" said:" said:On the other hand if there is an attempt to forward plan massive infrastructure projects then we are "told" that it's a massive waste of money on something we don't need.HS2, anyone? I am most grateful to m'learned friend [/Rumpole] Log in to reply The following user said thank you: postal |