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Listed signal boxes 26/07/2013 at 11:17 #47600
Zoe
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23451290

Twenty six signal boxes have been listed:

North

Hebden Bridge, Calderdale, West Yorkshire
Hensall, Selby, North Yorkshire

West

Bournemouth West Junction, Poole, Dorset
Lostwithiel, Restormel, Cornwall
Marsh Brook, Shropshire
Par, Restormel, Cornwall
Totnes, S Hams, Devon

East

Brundall, Broadland, Norfolk
Bury St Edmunds Yard, St Edmundsbury, Suffolk
Downham Market, Kings Lynn and West Norfolk, Norfolk
Skegness, East Lindsey, Lincolnshire
Thetford, Breckland, Norfolk
Wainfleet, East Lindsey, Lincolnshire
Wymondham South Junction, South Norfolk, Norfolk

South

Aylesford, Tonbridge and Malling, Kent
Canterbury East, Kent
Cuxton, Medway, Kent
Eastbourne, East Sussex
Grain Crossing, Medway, Kent
Littlehampton, West Sussex
Liverpool Street, City of London
Maidstone West, Maidstone, Kent
Rye, Rother, East Sussex
Shepherdswell, Dover, Kent
Snodland, Tonbridge and Malling, Kent
Wateringbury, Maidstone, Kent

These are in addition to the signal boxes which already have listed status.

Last edited: 26/07/2013 at 11:18 by Zoe
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Listed signal boxes 26/07/2013 at 11:56 #47602
Neil
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Some more photos on the Telegraph site.

http://tinyurl.com/mpd8vgt

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Listed signal boxes 26/07/2013 at 12:03 #47603
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23451290


Liverpool Street, City of London

The Bouncy Castle? Or the Met Rly box at the west end of the Outer Rail platform? The latter looks surprisingly good but is in need of some tlc. It would be good to find a use for it whereby any surviving equipment could be retained. The former isn't the most signalbox-like box but I suppose it is rather unique!

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Listed signal boxes 26/07/2013 at 13:02 #47604
postal
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Note the caveat within the article:

"English Heritage said some of the listed buildings could be "rejuvenated" as cafes or museums, such as the 1923 signal box in Totnes, Devon.".

Looks like the bricks and mortar have a measure of protection but the interesting bits seem to be more at risk.

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Listed signal boxes 26/07/2013 at 13:22 #47606
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Out of use signal boxes abandoned on the railway tend to be stripped of equipment and then rot away. I know of a couple of places where the equipment was left in situ but still deteriorated in condition.

I personally like to see the whole thing retained, but would also choose to retain the building over nothing every time.

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Listed signal boxes 26/07/2013 at 14:17 #47608
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" said:
Out of use signal boxes abandoned on the railway tend to be stripped of equipment and then rot away. I know of a couple of places where the equipment was left in situ but still deteriorated in condition.

I personally like to see the whole thing retained, but would also choose to retain the building over nothing every time.
And in the vast majority, about the only original equipment will be the frame - and even that is likely to have been completely redone "downstairs".

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Listed signal boxes 27/07/2013 at 05:48 #47616
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Based on our experience with Horsted Keynes SB (which is listed Grade II) the listing only applies to the external features of the architecture. The signalling equipment is therefore not protected. Danny is quite right inasmuch as the frame at HK is the original 1882 Saxby & Farmer, (with a later 7 lever extension) but all the locking has been revamped more than once.
Ray

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Listed signal boxes 27/07/2013 at 06:53 #47619
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23451290

Eastbourne, East Sussex.
It's good to see my local signalbox make it to the list. A many happy days spent there in my youth, when i was a working lever frame box. Then going on to be working with it when I progressed to full employment, back in the the days of the double arrow. :-)

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Listed signal boxes 27/07/2013 at 07:48 #47620
Peter Bennet
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Well I've just come back from a few days "at home" in Broughty Ferry and they have "preserved" the old signal box in the middle of the Up platform. It was demolished a few years ago and stored but now reserected as part of a Restaurant (vacant).

As you can see it's not exactly the same box though.

http://gb.fotolibra.com/images/previews/482860-broughty-ferry-station-1991.jpeg

http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/03/02/97/3029773_9a0f6ab5.jpg


There is a lever frame of sorts visible through the platform level door (the levers were on the upper level when in operation). So its not really clear what they have preserved and what they have made up.

Peter

I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs!
Last edited: 27/07/2013 at 07:51 by Peter Bennet
Reason: Better picture

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Listed signal boxes 27/07/2013 at 10:05 #47624
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The frame in the Ferry is the one from upstairs, but has been reassembled (by the firm who built the box) with the levers transposed, so number 1 is on the right as you look at it. It's also been set into concrete. The contracters simply burned the footbridge, which given the whole station including box and footbridge are category A listed, is verging on criminal. What a waste!
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Listed signal boxes 27/07/2013 at 10:08 #47625
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I meant to add that the box is almost entirely new; new wooden cladding on a new steel frame, with new windows and a new door. About the only original thing I can see on it is the name board.
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Listed signal boxes 29/07/2013 at 12:12 #47697
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Even listing is no guarantee of protection for the structure if it gets into the wrong hands: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-21955502
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Listed signal boxes 29/07/2013 at 13:36 #47700
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I'm gobsmacked that Shrewsbury box isn't listed as it's the biggest box still working and has been the biggest still working for quite a few years!
Last edited: 29/07/2013 at 13:37 by outofsection
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Listed signal boxes 29/07/2013 at 14:07 #47701
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Severn Bridge Jn SB is already listed. This website shows it to have been listed on 23 January 1991:-

http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-454643-severn-bridge-junction-signal-box-at-sj-

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