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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins

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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 09/01/2017 at 19:52 #91400
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4097000/Cities-vie-hop-super-speedy-hyperloop-rail.html

Getting a bit ridiculous methinks.

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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 10/01/2017 at 07:03 #91411
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Journalists are suckers for speed; extra capacity is a bit more complicated, and beyond the grasp of their simple minds. It was the same when First Group proposed a maglev between Edinburgh and Glasgow, and all the journos drooled at the idea of getting there before they'd left, so as to speak.
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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 10/01/2017 at 15:26 #91420
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Peter Bennet in post 91400 said:

Getting a bit ridiculous methinks.
The engineering is practical. We're talking about 350 miles at 760 mph, so that's under half an hour. With 0.1g acceleration and braking we're adding a few minutes at each end.

Whether it can be done affordably is another question. You'll need an almost straight and level tube, and punching that through the middle of England is not going to be cheap.

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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 11/01/2017 at 09:30 #91443
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clive in post 91420 said:
Peter Bennet in post 91400 said:

Getting a bit ridiculous methinks.
The engineering is practical. We're talking about 350 miles at 760 mph, so that's under half an hour. With 0.1g acceleration and braking we're adding a few minutes at each end.

Whether it can be done affordably is another question. You'll need an almost straight and level tube, and punching that through the middle of England is not going to be cheap.
I can hear the NIMBYs sharpening their pens already... that'll make it even more expensive. Look at the trouble there's been over HS2, and that doesn't even have any clever new technology to make it harder to build round their favourite tree...

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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 11/01/2017 at 10:47 #91445
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kbarber in post 91443 said:
clive in post 91420 said:
Peter Bennet in post 91400 said:

Getting a bit ridiculous methinks.
The engineering is practical. We're talking about 350 miles at 760 mph, so that's under half an hour. With 0.1g acceleration and braking we're adding a few minutes at each end.

Whether it can be done affordably is another question. You'll need an almost straight and level tube, and punching that through the middle of England is not going to be cheap.
I can hear the NIMBYs sharpening their pens already... that'll make it even more expensive. Look at the trouble there's been over HS2, and that doesn't even have any clever new technology to make it harder to build round their favourite tree...
Point proven when you consider the extra running costs and energy consumption they will cause the HS2 operation to incur by putting it in tunnel so as to avoid visual intrusion on their favourite bit of motorway (this from a part of the word which fought the M40 tooth and nail and now wouldn't be without it). When I hear them complaining about how much land HS2 will take ("wider than a 6-lane motorway" if you believe some of the propagandists) I love showing them a Google Earth shot from Harrietsham in Kent where the M20 (6 lane motorway), A20 (modern trunk road so wide enough for 3 lanes) and HS1 with sound barriers on each side run next to each other. Even with the acoustic barriers, HS1 is the least space-hungry of the three.

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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 11/01/2017 at 11:06 #91446
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The harsh reality is it will not happen in my lifetime. Reality at the moment is that I am sitting on 1S12 10:30 Kings Cross to Edinburgh and would you believe it passing through Hitchin we are already 10 minutes late. Mind the bacon buttie that I just finished was great. As I speak we are slowing down again........he ho we have stopped.
Now that's reality or am I just a pessimist.

Geoff

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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 11/01/2017 at 11:37 #91448
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Geoff

Looks as if all fast trains were routed via the down slow line at Potters Bar for a while this morning. Possibly a track defect? All back to normal now by the look of it.

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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 11/01/2017 at 12:11 #91449
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WesternChampion in post 91448 said:
Geoff

Looks as if all fast trains were routed via the down slow line at Potters Bar for a while this morning. Possibly a track defect? All back to normal now by the look of it.

Chris
I reported to NR last week that I was rudely awakened from my slumbers when I banged my head on the window while violently crossing the UF point work there. Overheard another passenger complaining about it to the driver at KGX this morning.

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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 11/01/2017 at 14:13 #91451
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Good job I am working at home today. :-)
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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 11/01/2017 at 15:23 #91453
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northroad in post 91446 said:
The harsh reality is it will not happen in my lifetime. Reality at the moment is that I am sitting on 1S12 10:30 Kings Cross to Edinburgh and would you believe it passing through Hitchin we are already 10 minutes late. Mind the bacon buttie that I just finished was great. As I speak we are slowing down again........he ho we have stopped.
Now that's reality or am I just a pessimist.

Geoff
You should have stopped on to Edinburgh rather than baling out at Darlington. It was only 1 late arriving at The Waverley.

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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 11/01/2017 at 15:55 #91455
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How long is it taking for the planning and delivery of HS2 - this is a Not in My Lifetime project!
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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 11/01/2017 at 18:15 #91470
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postal in post 91453 said:
northroad in post 91446 said:
The harsh reality is it will not happen in my lifetime. Reality at the moment is that I am sitting on 1S12 10:30 Kings Cross to Edinburgh and would you believe it passing through Hitchin we are already 10 minutes late. Mind the bacon buttie that I just finished was great. As I speak we are slowing down again........he ho we have stopped.
Now that's reality or am I just a pessimist.

Geoff
You should have stopped on to Edinburgh rather than baling out at Darlington. It was only 1 late arriving at The Waverley.
At the risk of hijacking the original post (admin move if necessary)

Now on the way back and fairing even worse. 16:05 from Darlington was running late so asked if I could get on 16:28. No it's not allowed on your ticket. Stood watching that arrive only to get an announcement 1 minute after it departed to say the 16:05 was cancelled. It did arrive and the mass exodus ensued. Now on the next one which is 21 minutes late. He he .....and the original post was talking about 45 minutes Kings Cross to Edinburgh. London. All I want at this moment in time is a gin and tonic and it has arrived as I speak.......

Geoff

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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 11/01/2017 at 19:26 #91477
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northroad in post 91470 said:
postal in post 91453 said:
northroad in post 91446 said:
The harsh reality is it will not happen in my lifetime. Reality at the moment is that I am sitting on 1S12 10:30 Kings Cross to Edinburgh and would you believe it passing through Hitchin we are already 10 minutes late. Mind the bacon buttie that I just finished was great. As I speak we are slowing down again........he ho we have stopped.
Now that's reality or am I just a pessimist.

Geoff
You should have stopped on to Edinburgh rather than baling out at Darlington. It was only 1 late arriving at The Waverley.
At the risk of hijacking the original post (admin move if necessary)

Now on the way back and fairing even worse. 16:05 from Darlington was running late so asked if I could get on 16:28. No it's not allowed on your ticket. Stood watching that arrive only to get an announcement 1 minute after it departed to say the 16:05 was cancelled. It did arrive and the mass exodus ensued. Now on the next one which is 21 minutes late. He he .....and the original post was talking about 45 minutes Kings Cross to Edinburgh. London. All I want at this moment in time is a gin and tonic and it has arrived as I speak.......

Geoff
Don't forget Delay Repay.

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London to Edinburgh in 45 mins 11/01/2017 at 22:34 #91481
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Bringing this back on topic (harrumph!), is the Elon Musk Hyperloop immune from the Rayleigh wave?
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