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Port Talbot FAQ 02/07/2019 at 21:31 #119219
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4869 posts 		1) I think the blank TD issue has already been fixed from a previous mantis report
2) I'd need to see the exact sequence of events, but I suspect there's a condition where you can get lucky and not manage to crash the trains into each other on the single line.

Not sure if you saw my other post in the Stormy Up Loop thread? "I'll release an update along side the updated ground hog timetables (After the seed group feature hits the loader)"
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Port Talbot FAQ 02/07/2019 at 22:11 #119224
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1180 posts 		Thanks Karl,

I didn’t see any report on the whitespace message but I had noticed the Pyle “Landore” post after my original message!

Sadly I didn’t do a save on the Burrows but IIRC, I got a slot into sidings, routed to loop, then accepted an exit train, routed my inbound to BS, with outbound appearing towards 451 before the inbound got onto the single. If 451 isn’t a shunt it could well get a Mexican!
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Port Talbot FAQ 04/07/2019 at 10:57 #119256
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1180 posts 		Another odd thing... as 2G50 stepped out past 3464 (Wildmill e/b starter distant), a note I had left at 3461 (Bridgend P3 starter) vanished from the berth. The branch was signalled onto P2 at the time.

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Port Talbot FAQ 04/07/2019 at 11:02 #119258
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4869 posts 		That's a really good spot, the issue was the berth clearing out when platform 1A became empty.
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Port Talbot FAQ 04/07/2019 at 16:37 #119263
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1180 posts 		Always a possibility I went completely mad, but when 2Q08 from CDF had changed ends at Bridgend P1 and was signalled to CR1, the berth changed to 2W08 just before stepping out to the VoG line!
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Port Talbot FAQ 08/07/2019 at 09:23 #119314
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202 posts 		Ar88 in post 113886 said:
Not found a bug, but I've got a TT request if possible?

Anything when fregiht diverts via Tondu were on would be brilliant! Or possibly a scenario where you could send freight/trains via Tondu on the OVE rather than straight through (in case of points failures) without having to heavily ammend TTs?

I've tried altering a TT myself to do this, but it found no paths Tondu-Garw Loop! Even when doing Tondu > Garw Branch > Garw Loop, or Tondu > Garw Loop.

Still unable to route to Garw from Tondu. Also a through train from the OVE to Maesteg reverses at Tondu to the limit of shunt

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Port Talbot FAQ 08/07/2019 at 10:16 #119316
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4869 posts 		Unable to route? or unable to timetable?
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Port Talbot FAQ 08/07/2019 at 10:36 #119317
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202 posts 		Apologies unable to timetable

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Port Talbot FAQ 08/07/2019 at 11:31 #119320
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4869 posts 		Thanks Glyn, I'll get that sorted for the next update.
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Port Talbot FAQ 08/07/2019 at 17:04 #119329
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202 posts 		headshot119 in post 119320 said:
Thanks Glyn, I'll get that sorted for the next update.
Also trains don't always seem to want to pick up the token at Margam Abbey Works East for the OVE line to Tondu.

Automatic reversals (non timetabled) also occur at Tondu on the OVE line if a stop is programmed for a train to run to run between the OVE and Maesteg in both directions but don't if its a passing time.
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Port Talbot FAQ 08/07/2019 at 17:09 #119330
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4869 posts 		geswedey in post 119329 said:
headshot119 in post 119320 said:
Thanks Glyn, I'll get that sorted for the next update.
Also trains don't always seem to want to pick up the token at Margam Abbey Works East for the OVE line to Tondu.

Automatic reversals (non timetabled) also occur at Tondu on the OVE line if a stop is programmed for a train to run to run between the OVE and Maesteg in both directions but don't if its a passing time.
When are trains not wanting to pick up the token?
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Port Talbot FAQ 08/07/2019 at 17:27 #119331
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202 posts 		headshot119 in post 119330 said:
geswedey in post 119329 said:
headshot119 in post 119320 said:
Thanks Glyn, I'll get that sorted for the next update.
Also trains don't always seem to want to pick up the token at Margam Abbey Works East for the OVE line to Tondu.

Automatic reversals (non timetabled) also occur at Tondu on the OVE line if a stop is programmed for a train to run to run between the OVE and Maesteg in both directions but don't if its a passing time.
When are trains not wanting to pick up the token?
After arrival at Sig 3482 or at Sig 3348 the timetables have the correct route code of OVE
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Port Talbot FAQ 10/07/2019 at 20:18 #119362
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1180 posts 		One more: The layout shows Llandeilo Junction but the interlocking view calls it "Llandilo"?
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Port Talbot FAQ 14/07/2019 at 13:16 #119409
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1180 posts 		And another: I keep asking the Landore shunter to call back in 2 minutes as I can't slot 5L32 (for the washer) out of the emergency road, but they keep calling back at alternating 20 second and 50 second intervals. A similar thing happened previously with the Margam East PIC.

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Port Talbot FAQ 14/07/2019 at 14:13 #119411
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4869 posts 		9pN1SEAp in post 119409 said:
And another: I keep asking the Landore shunter to call back in 2 minutes as I can't slot 5L32 (for the washer) out of the emergency road, but they keep calling back at alternating 20 second and 50 second intervals. A similar thing happened previously with the Margam East PIC.

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That's a core code issue I believe, though I can't find the ticket number at the moment.

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Port Talbot FAQ 14/07/2019 at 15:39 #119413
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1180 posts 		Thanks Karl,

I've just had (very late) 2Q08 and (early) 6O71 dispatched from Onllwyn onto the same single line. Naughty PIC!
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Port Talbot FAQ 26/04/2020 at 20:49 #126338
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1180 posts 		9pN1SEAp in post 119362 said:
One more: The layout shows Llandeilo Junction but the interlocking view calls it "Llandilo"?
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It also says "Llandilo" in the Incident Log view when issues occur/resolve.
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Port Talbot FAQ 26/04/2020 at 21:12 #126339
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1180 posts 		I withdraw this post, there's a note about this in the documentation!
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Port Talbot FAQ 26/04/2020 at 21:20 #126340
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4869 posts 		I opened the save, whoever has set the route has used the grey exit triangle in the bay. For a permissive move you need to set to the red exit triangle.

EDIT - I respect the members decision to withdraw the question posed to the house.
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Port Talbot FAQ 14/06/2020 at 00:06 #127552
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1180 posts 		I have 0B33 on the Swansea Avoiding heading towards Landore, but can't route 263 to 285 "point(s) locked reverse". I suspect this is related to the route for 5L08 which recently emerged from the Emergency Road to reverse towards Maliphant, as I have seen 903 points locking normal on main route from 283. Weird!

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Port Talbot FAQ 14/06/2020 at 15:16 #127564
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4869 posts 		I will make investigatory noises.
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Port Talbot FAQ 22/06/2020 at 16:25 #127793
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19 posts 		On the sim you can set a route from PT245 to PT449 so a train can be signalled from the UM in to the DPL platform at Llanelli.

In real life this route doesn't exist. If an UM train terminates at Llanelli and is to return west then it would normally be an ECS shunt move - usually signalled from UPL PT249 to PT251, then reverse from GPL PT554 to PT286 in to Llanelli DPL.
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Port Talbot FAQ 16/12/2020 at 16:12 #134777
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19 posts 		Hello,

I can't remember if I've had this issue on previous version(s) of the sim or the loader but I can't set a route from Llandeilo Jn Up Loop to Up Main. 947 points are locked, "points locked normal by another route". I can't swing them manually either. Screenshot attached.

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Port Talbot FAQ 16/12/2020 at 16:23 #134778
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5265 posts 		Troy100 in post 134777 said:
Hello,

I can't remember if I've had this issue on previous version(s) of the sim or the loader but I can't set a route from Llandeilo Jn Up Loop to Up Main. 947 points are locked, "points locked normal by another route". I can't swing them manually either. Screenshot attached.

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If you can post a saved game rather than a screenshot it makes it much easier for people to diagnose.
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Port Talbot FAQ 16/12/2020 at 16:39 #134779
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1180 posts 		Hi all,

The aforementioned points P947 appear to be permanently locked normal even when starting with no timetable. I've tried swinging every other set of points on Panel C including all the frames, but nothing seems to unlock these.

Incidentally, I note that P952A (Llandeilo Down Loop Down Derailer) reversing, locks P953A/B (Main line crossover West End) normal, for no discernible reason!

Also, there's a catch point shown between Swanesa Loop West Jn and Cockett Tunnel on the down which isn't assigned a point ID in F11, isn't swingable and doesn't redraw. Does it exist clipped & scotched in real life?

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