Crossings in station sections

Hi,

In Stockport sim I was unlucky enough to have a Down stopper held at Woodsmoor for 40 minutes, which locked out the crossing inside that section (quite some way ahead).

In the real world, is there a rule that would allow MCB/AHB crossings to be set back to open - with the train prohibited from moving?

Thanks
Jamie

Hi,

In Stockport sim I was unlucky enough to have a Down stopper held at Woodsmoor for 40 minutes, which locked out the crossing inside that section (quite some way ahead).

In the real world, is there a rule that would allow MCB/AHB crossings to be set back to open - with the train prohibited from moving?

Thanks
Jamie

9pN1SEAp in post 116010 said:

Hi,

In Stockport sim I was unlucky enough to have a Down stopper held at Woodsmoor for 40 minutes, which locked out the crossing inside that section (quite some way ahead).

In the real world, is there a rule that would allow MCB/AHB crossings to be set back to open - with the train prohibited from moving?

Thanks
Jamie

If it's an AHBC, it would have to be taken under local control, I think you could do it under TS9 reg 3.8 "A train required to stop in the section will stop within the crossing controls."

But by the time a crossing attendant has got down there, it might not be worth it?

You would wanna tell Ops Control about the problem in real life and possibly the civil police, as you're effectively shutting a public road.

TUT in post 116013 said:

9pN1SEAp in post 116010 said:

Hi,

In Stockport sim I was unlucky enough to have a Down stopper held at Woodsmoor for 40 minutes, which locked out the crossing inside that section (quite some way ahead).

In the real world, is there a rule that would allow MCB/AHB crossings to be set back to open - with the train prohibited from moving?

Thanks
Jamie

If it's an AHBC, it would have to be taken under local control, I think you could do it under TS9 reg 3.8 "A train required to stop in the section will stop within the crossing controls."

But by the time a crossing attendant has got down there, it might not be worth it?

You would wanna tell Ops Control about the problem in real life and possibly the civil police, as you're effectively shutting a public road.

You could put an AHBC onto local control, however a failed, or delayed train would not count as a "train required to stop in section" for the purposes of TS9 3.8.

If a sealed release is provided on a level crossing, it can be used to allow the barriers to be raised if a train has failed, and you have an assurance from the driver that no further moves will be made.

You could put an AHBC onto local control, however a failed, or delayed train would not count as a "train required to stop in section" for the purposes of TS9 3.8.

TUT in post 116013 said:

Thanks for clarifying!

I was thinking about failed train, but the OP made it sound like the train hadn't failed.

If the train hasn't failed, do you just have to bite the bullet and leave the barriers down then? I can't see anything else under TS9 reg 3 that would apply.

Or are we invoking G1 1.1?

headshot119 in post 116014 said:

You could put an AHBC onto local control, however a failed, or delayed train would not count as a "train required to stop in section" for the purposes of TS9 3.8.

Presumably, an AHB with a station within the strike-in point would have a signal between the station and the crossing? If so, would replacing the signal (either cancelling the route or replacing an auto signal) cause the AHB to rise automatically?