Freight in Woodborough DGL blocks Main Line

Two possibilities:

1. The train length is wrong.
2. The loop length is wrong.

I do not know which is correct.

My recommendation would be to tell the driver his next location is the one after Woodborough Loop and give him the road out to clear the line.

Thanks for your two suggestions above.
In this particular instance I let the train carry on and diverted it via Westbury station. I don't think that the class 1 was delayed by very much.

I now keep a watch in case this sort of thing lloks like happening again.

A good idea might be to edit the train's timetable, change the train's length, and then re-save the TT for the next time you play.

lazzer in post 141390 said:

A good idea might be to edit the train's timetable, change the train's length, and then re-save the TT for the next time you play.

You're probably right. I'll remember that and also do it for any other trains that may have the same problem, if there are any.

Be careful with the Mendip/FLHH Jumbos. These are now run in excess of 700m. THEY DO NOT FIT in the Loops so some form of regulation is required.

bugsy in post 141391 said:

lazzer in post 141390 said:

A good idea might be to edit the train's timetable, change the train's length, and then re-save the TT for the next time you play.

You're probably right. I'll remember that and also do it for any other trains that may have the same problem, if there are any.

From the saved game TT Notes -

Quote:

Be careful with the Mendip/FLHH Jumbos. These are now run in excess of 700m. THEY DO NOT FIT in the Loops so some form of regulation is required.

Guess the WTT hadn't been altered to reflect this.

Just an observation this.

I know the information is available to anyone who opens your uploaded save but it would short-circuit things if you could include some information about which TT is causing you problems in your original post to make it easier for anyone that may want to help.

Used to be special bell codes for overlength Freightliners, which reminds me that there was only one question in my Signallers and Guards bi-annual exam back in the early nineties that I didn't know the answer to was about overlength bell codes, mind you I would probably have been stumped by out of gauge bell codes as well.

Soton_Speed in post 141393 said:

bugsy in post 141391 said:

lazzer in post 141390 said:

A good idea might be to edit the train's timetable, change the train's length, and then re-save the TT for the next time you play.

You're probably right. I'll remember that and also do it for any other trains that may have the same problem, if there are any.

From the saved game TT Notes -

Quote:

Be careful with the Mendip/FLHH Jumbos. These are now run in excess of 700m. THEY DO NOT FIT in the Loops so some form of regulation is required.

Guess the WTT hadn't been altered to reflect this.

I wonder if this is one of those instances where the bobby has to make their own decisions, rather than have everything set out in the WTT. I recall, when I was in the Brent, 6M94 (I think it was) to Bescot was booked a maximum 60SLU but we often asked - and got - Control authority to run it at 80. Boxes on line of route would be advised it was overlength and it was left to them to sort it out.

The Freight lengths were what actually ran on the Day

Chrisrail in post 141438 said:

The Freight lengths were what actually ran on the Day

So the signallers weren't advised that this particular, or any other trains, were overlength then?

...... There’s two prevailing schools of thought amongst timetable writers of SimSig - one where they try to replicate/transcribe the timetable verbatim “warts and all” - and it’s up to the SimSignaller to work round as real signallers would. The downside to that is that SimSig doesn’t offer some of the support real signallers get in dealing with these issues from control and the like.

The other school of thought sees timetable writers write the workarounds into the timetable, making a more playable experience. That might be by adjusting train lengths or changing platform numbers to resolve clashes. The evident downside to that is that it’s marginally less realistic, and offers less of an on-the-fly challenge.

Chris would seem to be in the former camp with this TT.

bugsy in post 141443 said:

Chrisrail in post 141438 said:

The Freight lengths were what actually ran on the Day

So the signallers weren't advised that this particular, or any other trains, were overlength then?

They almost certainly were.

There is a “maximum” length trains can run over the route - but the freight operator can request to NR to run overlength. If/When that request is granted by the train running controller, they will contact the signallers enroute to advise train is running overlength, and the signaller then has to manage it accordingly.

That’s something that isn’t easily replicated in SimSig.

There’s two prevailing schools of thought amongst timetable writers of SimSig - one where they try to replicate/transcribe the timetable verbatim “warts and all” - and it’s up to the SimSignaller to work round as real signallers would. The downside to that is that SimSig doesn’t offer some of the support real signallers get in dealing with these issues from control and the like.

The other school of thought sees timetable writers write the workarounds into the timetable, making a more playable experience. That might be by adjusting train lengths or changing platform numbers to resolve clashes. The evident downside to that is that it’s marginally less realistic, and offers less of an on-the-fly challenge.

Chris would seem to be in the former camp with this TT.