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Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 06/03/2025 at 19:01 #160362 | |
GeoffM
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This thread is for discussion of the 2019 timetable for Hope Valley.
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Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 07/03/2025 at 09:58 #160383 | |
broodje
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Am I correct that this timetable does not chain to the 2019 timetable of Manchester East? The first train from Bredburry towards Earls Sdg, 0H11 or H30570S is unknown to the timetable of Hope Valley.
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Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 07/03/2025 at 10:36 #160384 | |
Meld
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For the time being yes, they will not chain, Updates to surrounding timetables will follow as and when they are completed and tested. The decisions and stock corrections used here need to be applied along the entire chain not just the adjacent sims, So we are not just looking at Man East, Cheshire lines, Stockport and Sheffield, 12 timetables in total with the 2009/15 as well, then we have to work through the adjacent sims to these 4 as well, its a rolling snowball. I'm not looking forward to Doncaster as this was a complete pain and took months to get right in the first place. These updates have to be made while working around other exciting indev products which obviously take priority. Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Mattyq |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 07/03/2025 at 10:49 #160386 | |
broodje
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Ok, no problem. It was just a question, not critique :).
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Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 07/03/2025 at 11:29 #160388 | |
Meld
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broodje in post 160386 said:Ok, no problem. It was just a question, not critique :).I didnt see it as critique, just thought a slightly fuller explanation would help others understand the process. Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!! Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Soton_Speed, Mattyq |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 09/03/2025 at 22:18 #160442 | |
RyanGerrard
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Quote:Hi.When T02A is status "Stopped (dep 00:00)" you can ask it to shunt forward and it gets up to around 3mph before showing stopped at ES Run Round, brief stop and ready to continue as TT'd. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Last edited: 09/03/2025 at 22:23 by RyanGerrard Reason: Found workaround. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: geswedey |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 6F70 10/03/2025 at 10:57 #160446 | |
geswedey
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6F70 0956 from Tunstead is booked to stand at Hazel Grove High Level Junction from 1032 to 1052 rather than stopping in the Down Cheadle Loop it stops at HG25 and blocks the following 1B71.
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Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 10/03/2025 at 19:24 #160464 | |
Zecs
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RyanGerrard in post 160442 said:Quote:I had the same problem. Check the direction of T02A in the F2 Train list. If it shows Up, reverse its direction. After reversing, it will move a bit, and stop at ES Run Round again, but then it will depart in a few minutes.Hi.When T02A is status "Stopped (dep 00:00)" you can ask it to shunt forward and it gets up to around 3mph before showing stopped at ES Run Round, brief stop and ready to continue as TT'd. Log in to reply |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 11/03/2025 at 11:20 #160471 | |
HST125Scorton
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I'm enjoying this 2019 timetable it's been a pleasure with minimal delays, even the little one of mine enjoyed watching. Although I have a question, I never seem to have got a train enter from Hope Cement Works. One rang in around 00:40hrs but never came onto the sim. I'm sat at 09:00hrs at present with nothing from or to the cement works. I'll presume there could be issues with rules as mentioned elsewhere.
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Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 6F70 11/03/2025 at 21:03 #160484 | |
pedroathome
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geswedey in post 160446 said:6F70 0956 from Tunstead is booked to stand at Hazel Grove High Level Junction from 1032 to 1052 rather than stopping in the Down Cheadle Loop it stops at HG25 and blocks the following 1B71.I've logged it as Mantis 41969 against the sim for now, but could also be reassigned against the TT when I speak to the TT developer James Last edited: 11/03/2025 at 21:04 by pedroathome Reason: None given Log in to reply |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 11/03/2025 at 21:05 #160485 | |
pedroathome
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HST125Scorton in post 160471 said:I'm enjoying this 2019 timetable it's been a pleasure with minimal delays, even the little one of mine enjoyed watching. Although I have a question, I never seem to have got a train enter from Hope Cement Works. One rang in around 00:40hrs but never came onto the sim. I'm sat at 09:00hrs at present with nothing from or to the cement works. I'll presume there could be issues with rules as mentioned elsewhere.Do you have a save game to go with this so it can be investigated? James Log in to reply |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 11/03/2025 at 21:21 #160486 | |
HST125Scorton
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Sorry totally forgot; then forgot I didn't save there I was either trouble with a 9 week old baby. Anyway saves from 0110hrs and 0440hrs. Update: One has decided to show this time, save at 0445hrs. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Last edited: 11/03/2025 at 21:30 by HST125Scorton Reason: None given Log in to reply |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 11/03/2025 at 21:56 #160487 | |
pedroathome
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HST125Scorton in post 160486 said:Sorry totally forgot; then forgot I didn't save there I was either trouble with a 9 week old baby. Anyway saves from 0110hrs and 0440hrs.I've just run the 01:10 save for a bit. I did eventually have a train enter from the cement works, which was for the shunts for 6M93. I suspect its possible that the other trains haven't had rules or decisions met James Log in to reply The following user said thank you: HST125Scorton |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 13/03/2025 at 17:45 #160514 | |
Zecs
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I think I spotted a possible explanation for why sometimes WAG1 and WAG2 remain in the RR sidings at Earles Sidings without the loco taking them into the cement works. 6M88 can run as H44587 (from Dagenham Down Yard) or H44588 (from Theale Lafarge FHH). The cement loco, T04A will run if either H44587 or H44588 runs. But T04A has a rule to enter 1 minute after H44588 arrives at Earles Sidings SB. So if H44587 runs, the loco won't enter. It could be the same with 6M08/6M45 and T10A because the entry rule specifies only 6M08 and not 6M45. Log in to reply |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 14/03/2025 at 18:39 #160528 | |
eps125
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Zecs in post 160514 said:I think I spotted a possible explanation for why sometimes WAG1 and WAG2 remain in the RR sidings at Earles Sidings without the loco taking them into the cement works.Good spot there are a couple of changes to rules I have made for the next version. I will add a Mantis number when able. Cheers Edit: Mantis 41975 and Mantis 41976 Last edited: 14/03/2025 at 19:53 by eps125 Reason: added mantis numbers Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Zecs |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 18/03/2025 at 20:22 #160599 | |
HST125Scorton
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Both 0M62 to Earles Sidings and 6M03 to Tunstead both entered from the Sheffield direction. Both trains are running exactly the same timetable unsure if the decision didn't work?
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Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 18/03/2025 at 20:29 #160600 | |
eps125
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HST125Scorton in post 160599 said:Both 0M62 to Earles Sidings and 6M03 to Tunstead both entered from the Sheffield direction. Both trains are running exactly the same timetable unsure if the decision didn't work?Thanks for this 0M62 needs to be in a different decision group. Mantis 41998. Cheers Log in to reply |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 20/03/2025 at 14:06 #160623 | |
peterb
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Zecs in post 160464 said:RyanGerrard in post 160442 said:Is this something which can be fixed long term?Quote:I had the same problem. Check the direction of T02A in the F2 Train list. If it shows Up, reverse its direction. After reversing, it will move a bit, and stop at ES Run Round again, but then it will depart in a few minutes.Hi.When T02A is status "Stopped (dep 00:00)" you can ask it to shunt forward and it gets up to around 3mph before showing stopped at ES Run Round, brief stop and ready to continue as TT'd. Also, can I suggest the detachments of the wagons are set to occur at the far end of the lines? I believe I had an occasion where the wagons were preventing points A to be swung, stopping the job. Log in to reply |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 20/03/2025 at 14:13 #160624 | |
peterb
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peterb in post 160623 said:Zecs in post 160464 said:Also, when this happens on a joining train, the whole train overhangs the whole set of points. On this occasion I reversed the train into the DGL but I have also had it where the route is set towards the works for the reversal and, because it was not fully in the loop, the train has run off into the works afterwards when it was destined for the mainline![quote=RyanGerrard;post=160442]Is this something which can be fixed long term? Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Last edited: 20/03/2025 at 14:13 by peterb Reason: None given Log in to reply |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 20/03/2025 at 16:01 #160627 | |
Hap
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peterb in post 160624 said:peterb in post 160623 said:When routing the ES shunts, you should shunt engine to WAG 2, then signal back out towards the cement works and not the DGL. You will then be able to throw the points and the train will propel onto WAG1, tie up and it will move into the works when it's ready to go without any further interference. For wagons coming out of the Cement Works, all the BC** trains are 169m, plenty of space to get into the Run Round and then into ES. Remember that the pilot is on the front coming out of the Works and propels into Earles Sidings. The COAL ones are 150m.Zecs in post 160464 said:Also, when this happens on a joining train, the whole train overhangs the whole set of points. On this occasion I reversed the train into the DGL but I have also had it where the route is set towards the works for the reversal and, because it was not fully in the loop, the train has run off into the works afterwards when it was destined for the mainline![quote=RyanGerrard;post=160442]Is this something which can be fixed long term? Craig How to report an issue: www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=usertrack:reportanissue Log in to reply |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 24/03/2025 at 12:45 #160678 | |
HST125Scorton
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Just finished this cracking timetable and well done to all involved!. Came out with 1 wrong route and a score of 98%. Could train 6M91 / H31104 have a note applied to it to say it needs ES8 to Shunt Neck off to allow the train to fully into the DGL?. Also shouldn't all the light engines enter from Tunstead Reception instead of the Quarry lines? I've always seen LEs come off Recp thank Quarry Lines. Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Last edited: 24/03/2025 at 12:58 by HST125Scorton Reason: None given Log in to reply |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 27/03/2025 at 21:15 #160719 | |
eps125
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RyanGerrard in post 160442 said:Zecs in post 160464 said: peterb in post 160623 said: We have been looking into this and we believe that we have identified the cause. A fix for something else has caused this behaviour and we intend to get a fix out very soon to rectify it. Edit: Loader update should now be available - version 5.35. Cheers Last edited: 28/03/2025 at 10:23 by eps125 Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: peterb |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 28/03/2025 at 12:31 #160726 | |
eps125
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HST125Scorton in post 160678 said:Just finished this cracking timetable and well done to all involved!. Came out with 1 wrong route and a score of 98%.Good Afternoon, Looking at this I have logged Mantis 42039 for 6M91 and Mantis 42040 for the light engines at Tunstead. Cheers Log in to reply The following user said thank you: HST125Scorton |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 29/03/2025 at 07:29 #160744 | |
TylerE
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I started a run of this timetable with a 4am start (seeded) and ran into an immediate issue. 6L75 enters from RMC, I run it into the long sidings... where instead of deatching the loco 0L75 as the timetable states...it just sits there and phones in about the signal being red.![]() Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
Hope Valley SX 2019-01-09 29/03/2025 at 07:38 #160745 | |
eps125
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TylerE in post 160744 said:I started a run of this timetable with a 4am start (seeded) and ran into an immediate issue. 6L75 enters from RMC, I run it into the long sidings... where instead of deatching the loco 0L75 as the timetable states...it just sits there and phones in about the signal being red.Have you tried setting the B end "S2" hand signal to off? The loco should then detach. Cheers ![]() Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Last edited: 29/03/2025 at 07:46 by eps125 Reason: added image Log in to reply |