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Would you help creating 25/03/2010 at 10:25 #976
Signaller@Amsterdam
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Now that "Eureka" is comming in May 2011, I thought that perhaps it would be a nice idea to work on a community project. My thought is to create the "Eureka" WTT for the Kings Cross sim with a handfull of people in the SimSig community.... would you participate in this?

The workload could be split speeding things up a lot and we might even be able to get the WTT released on the same day Eureka kicks off.

** Can someone please fix the POLL options, something apears to have gone wrong.

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Would you help creating 25/03/2010 at 10:25 #7765
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Now that "Eureka" is comming in May 2011, I thought that perhaps it would be a nice idea to work on a community project. My thought is to create the "Eureka" WTT for the Kings Cross sim with a handfull of people in the SimSig community.... would you participate in this?

The workload could be split speeding things up a lot and we might even be able to get the WTT released on the same day Eureka kicks off.

** Can someone please fix the POLL options, something apears to have gone wrong.

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Would you help creating 25/03/2010 at 11:11 #7771
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Maarten,

I have already considered this for the Peterborough sim (and done a few quick edits) (using the 2010 December TT) so will be quite willing to work in collaboration on this as the main mid section linking between the two sims will need to be the same.

Ken

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Would you help creating 25/03/2010 at 11:30 #7776
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Sorry Otto, the only options are to reset the counts, or to delete the poll. I've done the latter so you can start again or just get people to post a "yes" in this thread.
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Would you help creating 25/03/2010 at 11:57 #7780
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I'm doing a lot of work with timetable related things currently so if someone can furnish me with the source data then I could lend a hand!
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Would you help creating 25/03/2010 at 13:50 #7796
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If you do want to play with the TT, the last version for download I saw was at http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pdf/ecml-nr-scl2-timetable-181209.pdf - the actual TT is Appendix A at the back of the document. Bear in mind that this is still draft and open to consultation; the finalised version will not be published until this autumn for implementation in Spring 2011. Given the local uproar in North Northumberland and the commitments that ECML management have already given, there will certainly be some tweaking done before the TT is put to bed.

JG

“In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe
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Would you help creating 25/03/2010 at 14:44 #7798
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Pardon the ignorance, but what is this Eureka you refer to?

As I'm currently between jobs I would be happy to help with creating this timetable - it is long overdue that I gave something back to the Simsig community in return for the hours of fun that it has provided me.

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Would you help creating 25/03/2010 at 17:41 #7804
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If you look at the link in my last posting, there is a full explanation.

JG

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Would you help creating 25/03/2010 at 21:27 #7812
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What does SX stand for?
Is it every days except Saturday, or every days except Saturday and Sunday?

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Would you help creating 25/03/2010 at 21:53 #7814
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SX - Saturdays Excepted, therefore the train runs Monday - Friday
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Would you help creating 26/03/2010 at 01:03 #7821
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I am writing a couple of TTs myself at the moment & would be more than happy to assist my services in writing a "community" timetable.
When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A
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Would you help creating 26/03/2010 at 07:50 #7830
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Okay I don't think we need a poll anymore to find out if there are enough hands to type the TT.
I myself thought abaut using Google docs spreadsheet. This will ollow everyone to work on the document at the same time and it is easy to use and doesn't require microsoft excel to be installed on your PC/Mac.

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Would you help creating 29/03/2010 at 17:53 #7973
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I would be willing to help with this if a definate source of information was used.
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Would you help creating 29/03/2010 at 22:02 #7981
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I would definitely be interesting in helping out perhaps on the open access operators (Grand Central, First Hull Trains) and then maybe working on some of the First Capital Connect services too. However if it were done on Google Docs I would probably not be able to help out. Basically what I am saying is that I would only really be able to help out by working within SimSig writing the timetables out. If it were done via Google Docs (or any other method) I would likely have to learn all the writing/coding etc from scratch.

That said, there may very well be some new services starting up on the East Coast Main Line by that date so that may need to be considered as well.

Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for.
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Would you help creating 01/04/2010 at 16:45 #8060
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I believe that what he means by using Google Docs is basically writing a .csv file in which case all you do is put the headcode in, description and timing load; then put the times in the corresponding cell in the spreadsheet (if it's departing king's cross at 01:15 then you go to the cell that is level with King's Cross dep and the headcode and put the time in "01:15" if it's passing then you use the passing character (usually ) so it'd be 0115.

Obviously using Freeze Panes is very useful for this.

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Would you help creating 01/04/2010 at 19:13 #8067
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Ahh that might be a problem for me then as my laptop came with Microsoft Works and I don't have MS Office on it. I know that I should be able to save in .csv or perhaps use Excel on my desktop PC but even so that means I'd still not now properly how to write a TT for a train in any spreadsheet ::
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Would you help creating 01/04/2010 at 20:17 #8072
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UKTM

Google docs is the Google way of tackling the Microsoft plan for world domination. With Google docs, all of the software and documents are on Google's server. All you as user have to do is open the file through your web browser then edit or amend as necessary. Because the file is held on the server, it is also available to other users so that more than one person can input to the document. You also have the option of exporting the file to your own hard disk if required.

Perhaps you should wait until our signaller@amsterdam works out what he wants to do and then start to look as what you would need to do if you want to help. In the meantime, you could always go through the Google help files to see how Google docs works and you could also try exporting one of the existing SimSig timetables (F4 - Tools 1 tab - Export) which gives you the TT in .csv format. You will be able to open this with MS Works (I've just confirmed that it works with MS Works v8) and see what the TT looks like in a format that will be identical to the format in Google docs.

JG

“In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe
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Would you help creating 09/04/2010 at 12:35 #8306
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Can I please point out that the Excel format doesn't allow for everything that can happen in a timetable. I wouldn't recommend it for this.
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Would you help creating 09/04/2010 at 18:52 #8325
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I'd personally prefer convdata format, it does most things we require and would easily be merged.
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Would you help creating 09/04/2010 at 19:40 #8328
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UKTrainMan said:
my laptop came with Microsoft Works and I don't have MS Office on it.

So did mine and I refused to pay for MS Office and dumped Works for Open Office which does everything that MS Office does and more and even better its FREE. Take a look here for info.
http://www.openoffice.org/

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Would you help creating 09/04/2010 at 20:29 #8329
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If I remember correctly Works should be able to open and write from and to csv files.
After all they are just text file ...

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