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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 12:00 #135511
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Thanks

mjkerr in post 135507 said:


However, I still do not understand why there is a mismatch
The simulation has a height of about 850px
This is less than the monitor dimensions

I have checked the graphics card and the settings are correct there too
1600 x 900 / 1920 x 1080

As above, you can see that Carlisle station disappears off the bottom of the screen!
You can't fit two full-height Carlisle views on the same monitor. Each view is approx. 850 pixels, so you'd need 1700 pixels to fit two stacked on top of each other. Neither of your monitors is that big.

The only way you can fit the four full-height views as you've described is to use all four monitors to show the sim.

There's no way to 'shrink' or 'zoom out' SimSig to use less pixels, without resorting to changing settings on your PC.

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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 13:58 #135516
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Steamer in post 135511 said:
You can't fit two full-height Carlisle views on the same monitor. Each view is approx. 850 pixels, so you'd need 1700 pixels to fit two stacked on top of each other. Neither of your monitors is that big

Thanks, that was what I feared

However, I have never been able to get the full height in the 1600x900 monitors
I went through all the settings in Windows 10 and the Gigabyte Graphics card
I could not see anything wrong

What is really strange the other program I use displays correctly

I decided to disconnect all but one monitor
1920 x 1080
I then noticed the background image was not displaying correctly
It is 1920 x 1080 and had black bands down each side
Again, I was unable to source this
If in doubt switch it off and switch it back on again
That solved it
It looks like the Windows configuration was overriding the Lenovo configuration
Possibly part of the latest Windows 10 H2O update

I then added each monitor, one by one, after each again shut down restart

Oddly, it all works and displays correctly now
How odd...
I now have a complete view from Carnforth to Carlisle, or Plumpton to Dumfries / Lockerbie
The need to scroll up/down has also disappeared

I also now have the additional workspace below or above the main view

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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 16:16 #135533
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Finally, this is what I have
A compromise, but I can see all screens, with no need to scroll vertically

Three screens, plus one screen for Simplifier and Train List


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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 19:03 #135559
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Albert in post 135503 said:
As I said, I assume bugsy is (maybe accidentally) taking advantage of scaling. You can tell Windows to scale all programs on a certain monitor to 75% or 125% of their size and a few other round numbers - this is used for small monitors with a large resolution.

Whether a program correctly displays when scaled is another question; in bugsy's screenshot it takes the scaling setting of one monitor when it's extended across both.
How do you tell Windows to do that?

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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 19:18 #135561
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ajax103 in post 135559 said:
How do you tell Windows to do that?

It looks like it depends on which SimSig is in use
For Carlisle the vertical is supposed to be about 832px

It would be helpful to know what the vertical px is!

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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 20:10 #135566
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mjkerr in post 135561 said:
ajax103 in post 135559 said:
How do you tell Windows to do that?

It looks like it depends on which SimSig is in use
For Carlisle the vertical is supposed to be about 832px

It would be helpful to know what the vertical px is!
No idea, I do know that if I run West Hampstead I get to see all of Panel 1 without having to scroll which I have to with the other panels which brings me to my next question, what's the sweet spot for size of multiple monitors?

21 inch, 22 inch with the minimum of scrolling needed?

I'm using a 32 inch TV as my current monitor but think that's too much for Simsig?

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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 20:18 #135567
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When discussing monitor sizes the important value is the pixel width x pixel height. The measurement in inches is meaningless.

For example you can have a 52" TV with 1920 x 1080 pixels, but also a 23" monitor which is 1920 x 1080 pixels, in terms of simulation "real estate" both will show exactly the same view.

I would hazard that most SimSig users are running 1920 x 1080, but I'm sure there's plenty of variation in among people.

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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 20:20 #135568
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ajax103 in post 135559 said:
How do you tell Windows to do that?
mjkerr corrected me, only 110% and 125% was allowed in his display settings, not anything smaller (I don't have Windows at hand right now.)

ajax103 in post 135566 said:
I'm using a 32 inch TV as my current monitor but think that's too much for Simsig?
Resolution is what matters here, if your TV supports up to 1920x1080 then it doesn't display any more than an ordinary 24 inch monitor.

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Multiple screens 30/12/2020 at 11:19 #135606
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ajax103 in post 135566 said:

21 inch, 22 inch with the minimum of scrolling needed?
I'm using a 32 inch TV as my current monitor but think that's too much for Simsig?

I would assume the TV is
1920 x 1080
The next issue is whether the input is VGA or HDMI
My previous TV downgraded the VGA input from 1920 x 1080 to 1024 x 768

If the TV is 4K, then it should be
3840 x 2160
Again, if a VGA imput is used the resolution would be downgraded
However, I have not seen any 4K TV with a VGA input

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