Birmingham New Street Summer 1990 TT

Albert in post 142892 said:

Some of the loco timings are fairly random. You can't attach 0V96 before 0S64 is out in any case. As long as the loco is on the train by the time it wants to depart (at 14:06) it won't be a problem.

Completely agree, but the loco that needs to be held until it can join enters from Saltley with a couple of trains right behind it. Nowhere to park the incoming loco to allow trains behind to pass, without abandoning table and using one of the station sidings. That was just why I suggested adjusting the entry time for 0V96.

BIRMINGHAM NEW STREET 13th May 1990 - 28th September 1990 Monday to Friday
{Final file nameto be:- <Birmingham New Street 13th May 1990 - 28th September 1990> }

This timetable is dedicated to Mr. Ron Derry who was Chief Signalling Inspector at Birmingham New Street.
TIMETABLE NOTES

The timetable must be run in the 1976-1991 era. This should be automatically selected at start-up.
It is *not* recommended to have failures or delays selected.

GENERAL HINTS
* Read. The. Timetable!
* Read. The. Sim. Manual. https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=simulations:newstreet
* Read the timetable and the notes on each train. The notes are especially important for the Centre Signalman as they give extra information about stopping positions and activities.
** Look out for overlap setting buttons (grey triangles with purple labels). These are explained in the sim manual.
* Read the timetable

SOUTH 1
* If trains are more than a couple of minutes early at Grand Jn or Proof House Jn, liaise with the Centre Signalman to ensure that the train doesn't get in the way of something else.
* Several trains are booked to run on the Grand Jn Line so pay attention at Aston.

SOUTH 2
* Trains may use unexpected platforms at International, especiallty those that terminate. Read the timetable carefully
* Several trains are booked to run on the Grand Jn Line so pay attention at Stetchford.

CENTRE
* There are lots of engine changes, runrounds and assorted shunting moves. Read the timetable and notes carefully so you know what bit of which train is going where. This is especially important mid-morning when you have up to three engine changes happening at once. Sticky notes are invaluable here.
* At start-up there are trains in certain sidings. Check F2 so you know what is hiding where.
* Check carefully which reversing point to use for engines, especially at the north end. Remember that there are short 'wrong road' routes to LOS at both ends of the station. Be careful so you don't give yourself a Mexican!
* Some shunt routes may not work as expected. You need to use via buttons, as with main signals) and generally use the red arrows and entry/exit buittons.
* Don't change platforms unless you really have to.
* Try to anticipate moves, especially for shunting, but don't pull off too early.
* All of the main aspect signals, and some shunt routes, at New St station have 120 second timneouts. If you are joining trains you should cancel the mid-platform signal in plenty of time.
* Some trains may not be quite where the track circuits say they are (especially right in the middle of the platforms) so you may need to use the call-on signal in the middle of the platform to get the trains to join correctly.
* The interlocking is very fussy, especially about via buttons.

NORTH
* Don't give the Stourbridge slot too early as it locks up Galton Jn.
* Some of the routes around Soho and Perry Bar Jns have some very inconvenient overlaps, so be careful when setting routes in this area.


DMU Diagrams Type Seats
D200 - 217 Derby Cl.150 Sprinter 2 Cars 135 Seats
D230 - 250 Derby Cl.150 Sprinter 2 Cars 135 Seats (A/T Fitted)
T40 - 60 Tyseley Cl.116/117 3 Cars 256 Seats
T80 - 93 Tyseley Cl.115/116 4 Cars 325 Seats
T100 - 101 Tyseley Cl.121 Single Power Car 65 Seats
T120 - 124 Tyseley Cl.114 2 Cars 136 Seats
T150 - 159 Tyseley Cl.104/116 2 Cars 136 Seats
T200 - 205 Tyseley Cl.150/1 Sprinter 3 Cars 212 Seats
NC101 - 129 Norwich Crown Point Cl.156 Super Sprinter 2 Cars 155 Seats
CH236 - 239 Chester Cl.104 2 Cars 118 Seats
CAM90 - 92 Cambridge Cl.128/114 2 Cars Pcls Unit

EMU Diagrams
A50 - 58 Bletchley Cl.310 4 Cars 25/293 Seats
C1 - 43 Bletchley Cl.321 4 Cars 28/271 Seats
B61 - 91 Longsight Electric Cl.304 3 Cars - 206 Seats

Pool Codes
DCMW - Departmental (Area Civil Enginner Watford) locos.
DCML - Departmental Area Civil Engineer Liverpool) locos.
FABT - Railfreight (Aggregates) Tinsley locos
FEAN - Railfreight (PS Coal) Toton Cl.58 locos (Nottinghamshire)
FEBN - Railfreight (PS Coal) Toton Cl.58 locos (Yorkshire)
FECN - Railfreight (PS Coal) Toton Cl.56 locos (Nottinghamshire)
FGAT - Railfreight (Distribution) Tinsley Cl.47 Locos
FGHC - Railfreight (Distribution) Crewe Cl.85/0 & Cl.87/1 locos
FGLC - Railfreight (Distribution) Crewe Cl.86/4 locos
FGOT - Railfreight (Distribution) - Tinsley Cl.31 locos.
FGPC - Railfreight (Distribution) Crewe Cl.86/6 locos.
FGRC - Railfreight (Distribution) Crewe Cl.85/1 locos.
FMYI - Railfreight (Metals) Immingham Locos.
FPEK - Railfreight (Petroleum) Cardiff Canton locos.
FSGB - Bescot Depot Shunting Locos
ICCA - Inter-City Cross Country Locos
ICCP - Inter-City Cross Country Services Cl.43 Locos
ICDA - Inter-City Crewe Cl.47/4 Locos
IEBA - Inter City Euston to Birmingham Services Locos
ILRA - Inter-City Cl.47/8 Locos
IWCA - Inter City West Coast Services Locos
NNWX - Network South East - London & North Western
PNCX - Provincial Norwich Crown Point Units
PDYX - Provincial Derby Etches Park Units
PTSX - Provincial Tyseley Depot Units
RPXN - Parcels DPU cars
RXLB - Parcels Cl.31 Locos
RXLC - Parcels Crewe Cl.47 Locos
RXLD - Parcels Bristol & Old Oak Common Cl.47 locos
RXLE - Parcels AC Eletric Locos

Coaching Stock Codes
AC2D - Mk.2d Tourist Standard Open
AD1D - Mk.2d first open
AD2D - Mk.2d Standard Open
AD1E - Mk.2e First Open
AE2D - Mk.2d second brake
AE2E - Mk.2e Brake Second Open
AC2F - Mk.2f Tourist Standard Open
AJ1F - Mk.2f Restaurant Buffet Car 1st Class
AN2E - Mk.2e second with nature Buffet
AS4G - Mk.3 sleeper (unclassified)
<AS4G - Mk.3 Sleeper>
<AU4G - Mk.3 Sleeper(with pabtry)>
AU4G - Mk.3 sleeper with pantry (unclassified)

<NEA/NEX - Brake Gangwayed [BG] 100mph>
NEA/NEX - Bogie Brake Van (Gangwayed) 100mph
NJV/NKV - General Utility Vans [GUV] 90mph
NKX - Motorail General Utility Van [GUV] 90mph
NLX - Newspaper Van
NSX - Post Office Sorting Van
NTX - Post Office Stowage Van

Depot Codes
BS - Bescot TMD
BY - Bletchley TMD
CA - Cambridge T&RSMD
CD - Crewe Diesel TMD
DY - Derby Etches Park T&RSMD
NC - Norwich Crown Point T&RSMD
OC - Old Oak Common T&RSMD
TS - Tyseley T&RSMD
WN - Willesden TMD

FREIGHT TRAIN TAGGING
21G - Grimsby
65W - Wolverhampon ST
682 - Gloucester
862 - Eastleigh

Timetable Copyright © Pascal Nadin 2021

This timetable has ben written using the relevant WTTs for the area & period as well as the WCML(south) & West Midlands Trip Notice & also a Birmingham New Streeet arrival & departure book for the summer of 1990 showing all the platforms the trains are booked to use. I'd like to pay special thanks to Noel(noisynoel) & AndyG for their work on sorting out all the parcel & mail vans shunts. Also thanks goes to the following who helped out in the timetable tests:- KymriskaDraken(Kev), Alex103(Alex), AndyG, NoisyNoel(Noel), jc92(Joe) & if I've missed anyone apologise for that.
In total there are 1269 trains in this TT & the analyser shows 12 warnings. Users be warned that this timetable is busy right from the word go at midnight till around 02.00am where it goes quiet for a few hours before it starts to build up again for the morning peak. But please read the TT data for each train so you don't end up routing trains off their respected paths. It is essential that trains arrive in New Street at their booked time & platform as this TT is not very forgiving & trains arriving out of sequence or in the wrong platform may cause issues whereby users may have to abandon the game & resume agagin from the last saved snapshot. Anyone who has any issues please list them on this forum thread. This TT has just been sent up for moderator approval & hopefully will be available to be downloaded soon.

Hi folks nice timetable. Is there a list of possible shunt routes please like whats their for Clive's Euston sim ? What looks like possible from main signals doesnt seem to be for loco reverses ( and thats even with VIA buttons being used )

once I've written the summer 1990 Saltley TT{sometime in 2022]

Another one is 1N03 which is a van train from Northampton which is booked to stand in Tile Hill loop for along time(IIRC around 20+ minutes)

After the first minute I need to get a train into Soho Depot. But there seems to be no obvious route from signal NS312 into a reverse sidings. I had to run the train all the way down to Smethwick and then reverse it. There must be a simpler way of doing this. Can anyone help here ?

When I've spoken to a couple of friends who knew the Birmingham New Street PSB, they've both said none of the signallers at New Street PSB liked manning the centre panel. They all avoidied it, but unfortunately someone had to do it otherwise the trains wouldn't have run. I can imagine the signallers racing to get to the panel first for shift change overs so they could avoid centre panel as best they could.

I am up to 13:20 - this is an excellent timetable. After learning the frustration of getting the shunt routes correct especially for platforms 5,6,7 nearly all the problems are minor except for 1

in a light engine attaching to ECS it (the LE) nearly always stops in the wrong place along the platform when joining , and since it is so busy I don't notice till well after it should have TRTS'd , and then have to abandon/shunt forward/pick up timetable again before it will join, all the while usually two or three trains standing in a throat

This is with the correct LE attaching to the correct rake, in the correct platform in the correct part of the platform as per TT at the correct time ; too many trains to mention have the issue. Very frustrating - carlisle doesn't do this at all.

OK so after a couple of runs through the following is my review. I always play single player and this should be kept in mind.

1. This is in my top 3 timetables now - Trent out of the box timetable, Carlisle 1980, and this

2. Its busy right off the bat and also even busier at night just when you think you have a handle on the TT

3. Initial frustrations learning the locking in this era are by and large surmountable

4. Its badly let down by the following

a) Light engines not stopping and joining correctly
b) Huge amount of stock having the same headcode especially ECS 5G52 and 5H50 makes it almost impossible to figure out which is which especially for changing round TTs , at one point I must have had 6 5G52s in play queued up for the depot and this also being the busiest period
c) Engine changes with the same headcode 0M31 off and 0M31 on - Carlisle 80s TT doesn't have this problem and it makes a huge difference even if the loco coming off could get a random code it would be less confusing.

Well done to the writers though.

I didnt notice LE entry times messing me up at all