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CCTV LC treadles / warnings? 11/02/2025 at 13:52 #160160
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269 posts 		I suppose it's true to life that the sim doesn't have any CCTV LLC treadle / warnings for approaching trains, but it's easy to miss a train on a sim this large.

Can a cheeky request for some warnings be made - even if behind a sim option? (Or even auto-lowering in Extra ARS mode?)
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CCTV LC treadles / warnings? 11/02/2025 at 18:45 #160163
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5323 posts 		MrSuttonmann in post 160160 said:
I suppose it's true to life that the sim doesn't have any CCTV LLC treadle / warnings for approaching trains, but it's easy to miss a train on a sim this large.

Can a cheeky request for some warnings be made - even if behind a sim option? (Or even auto-lowering in Extra ARS mode?)

:)
When the IECC first opened there were frequent occasions when Hett Mill was not lowered in time leading to a train being cautioned. Just after the opening of the IECC there was a regular programme of visits from drivers in order to see and understand the scope and workings of the new Centre. There is an anecdotal tale that on one of the visits one of the drivers raised the Hett Mill issue. This led to a debate as the guide insisted that it would never happen and involved the signaller on the panel at the time in the discussion. The discussion was only resolved when the signaller had to go back to the panel take a call from a driver waiting at red at Hett Mill.

IIRC the plan was also to take Morpeth, Alnmouth and Tweedmouth into the IECC and there was enough room on the floor to install the relevant panels. It would have required three separate work stations as each of the boxes has a large number of LCs to monitor. Eventually that plan was not taken forward as it was thought at the time that the labour savings would have been minimal and it would have caused a big upheaval for the staff and HR department.
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CCTV LC treadles / warnings? 12/02/2025 at 16:08 #160172
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269 posts 		What's even more annoying about that whole scenario with Hett Mill LC is that the road only goes to a farm and a house.

You'd expect it to be a main road, but it probably sees very little vehicle traffic at all.

In that case, is there much harm in un-ticking the "Auto-raise" button ;)

(Indeed I wonder why a CCTV LC was installed here at all - surely an AHB would have sufficed?)
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CCTV LC treadles / warnings? 12/02/2025 at 16:37 #160173
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2103 posts 		I do not know when this crossing was installed but there will have been a good reason.

New AHBs have been banned for a long time now and would not be a good choice if there is a lot of slow farm traffic even when they were allowed.
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CCTV LC treadles / warnings? 13/02/2025 at 17:43 #160188
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3715 posts 		MrSuttonmann in post 160172 said:
What's even more annoying about that whole scenario with Hett Mill LC is that the road only goes to a farm and a house.

You'd expect it to be a main road, but it probably sees very little vehicle traffic at all.

In that case, is there much harm in un-ticking the "Auto-raise" button ;)

(Indeed I wonder why a CCTV LC was installed here at all - surely an AHB would have sufficed?)
What's the line speed there? AHBs are only good up to 100mph.
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CCTV LC treadles / warnings? 13/02/2025 at 18:28 #160189
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Online 		Just wondering why this is not set closed by default with a raise request button (like Heck Line near Drax B. Jn)?
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CCTV LC treadles / warnings? 14/02/2025 at 10:04 #160190
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269 posts 		jc92 in post 160188 said:
MrSuttonmann in post 160172 said:
What's even more annoying about that whole scenario with Hett Mill LC is that the road only goes to a farm and a house.

You'd expect it to be a main road, but it probably sees very little vehicle traffic at all.

In that case, is there much harm in un-ticking the "Auto-raise" button ;)

(Indeed I wonder why a CCTV LC was installed here at all - surely an AHB would have sufficed?)
What's the line speed there? AHBs are only good up to 100mph.
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9pN1SEAp in post 160189 said:

Just wondering why this is not set closed by default with a raise request button (like Heck Line near Drax B. Jn)?
Another good question. The powers that be missed a trick here, especially if the crossing became a known problem for being missed. I'm no expert on LC equipment, but surely a rather simple upgrade? (I immediately regret suggesting that... I can imagine this equipment being rather bespoke for certain scenarios - probably requiring a complete replacement of at least the cabinet hardware).

Well, I've ran the sim for a good few hours now with the LC locked down. If the farmer/resident wanted to have crossed, I'm sure they would have called by now
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CCTV LC treadles / warnings? 14/02/2025 at 11:45 #160191
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5323 posts 		If anyone wants to see the crossing there are lots of pics and youtube clips on line if you do an image search for hett mill level crossing.
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