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| Covdata and Liverpool Street 10/10/2012 at 10:31 #36205 | |
woodruff
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Can any one help with how to use the Covdata on Liverpool Street? I gather that you can convert the wtt timetable to a text file , but then how do you convert back? Or is this sim too old to use this tool on? I seem to have placed the covdata in every location that I can find but then seem to have an issue running it from the command promt page as well. The error message from the command promt is the following; " 'covdata' is not recognised as an internal or external command, operable program or hatch file. " ?? Trying to get this to work as reading through the covdata and having a go at using it should make it easier to write the 2012 timetable I am trying to do for this sim ! Ste Log in to reply |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 10/10/2012 at 10:58 #36206 | |
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Sacro
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Unless you renamed it, it's called "convdata"
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| Covdata and Liverpool Street 10/10/2012 at 11:32 #36208 | |
Peter Bennet
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I have in C:/windows Best plan is to use the option within f4 of any recent Sim - does not need to be the Sim to which the timetable relates. I expect there is an instruction on the WIKI somewhere. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: woodruff |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 10/10/2012 at 15:45 #36217 | |
postal
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" said:I have in C:/windowsAs expected. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 10/10/2012 at 15:46 by postal Log in to reply The following user said thank you: woodruff |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 10/10/2012 at 21:46 #36230 | |
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woodruff
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I understand now, so I do not have to try and access it via the timetable edit menu in the Liverpool Street sim, I can open any of the sims and access the wtt and the text file for the Liverpool Street sim via the edit menu for that sim. Thank you for the help. Log in to reply |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 12/10/2012 at 22:59 #36404 | |
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woodruff
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I have had a go at using a test timetable and by using the Liverpool Lime Street exporter I was able to convert my timetable to a text and then back to a SimSig timetable. Problem is now when I try to run the timetable on the Liverpool Street sim, I just get an error message? "Error loading C\Program Files (x86)\ SimSig\LivSt\Test 2012 v1.WTT" Does any one understand where I might be going wrong? Log in to reply |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 12/10/2012 at 23:59 #36406 | |
GeoffM
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" said:I have had a go at using a test timetable and by using the Liverpool Lime Street exporter I was able to convert my timetable to a text and then back to a SimSig timetable. Problem is now when I try to run the timetable on the Liverpool Street sim, I just get an error message?Rename it to test.txt temporarily and open it (or just open it from within in Notepad). There'll be a load of nonsense characters but check that there is a SIMSIGT2 (I think) within the first couple of characters. OTOH, if it looks like plain text then it wasn't converted! SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 13/10/2012 at 10:27 #36415 | |
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woodruff
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I have just checked and the item you said was not there. So I have just redone by using the default timetable and after copy and pasting I have just tried it again but get the same message? The converter does give me a positive message that the file have been converted.
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| Covdata and Liverpool Street 13/10/2012 at 10:40 #36417 | |
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woodruff
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Below is the converted notepad file to SimSig file. { it was all in different char but when I pasted, it has referted to normal ]. SIMSIGT2LivSt*Liverpool Street test timetable 13.10.2012Tests timetable 13.10.2012 °OèË 315 315 4-CAR EMU KR317 317 4-CAR EMU dR2B02d `T HSUBK H315LONFLDSUØT CAMHTHÈUŒU BTHNLGR|V@V SLSL LIVST¨W¨W1 SL 2D082B04d äW HSUBK H315LONFLDS˜X\X CAMHTHLYY BTHNLGR ZÄY SLSL LIVST,[,[1 SL 2D082B06d h[ HSUBK H315LONFLDS \à[ CAMHTHÐ\”\ BTHNLGR„]H] SLSL LIVST°^°^1 SL 2D082B08d ì^ HSUBK H315LONFLDS _d_ CAMHTHT`` BTHNLGRaÌ` SLSL LIVST4b4b1 SL 2D082B10d pb HSUBK H315LONFLDS$cèb CAMHTHØcœc BTHNLGRŒdPd SLSL LIVST¸e¸e1 SL 2D08 Log in to reply |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 13/10/2012 at 10:54 #36418 | |
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woodruff
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Just some more info. I have just converted the default timetable to a notepad file and then converted back. I even tried saving the notepad file in the sim folder but still got the same error message.
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| Covdata and Liverpool Street 13/10/2012 at 13:34 #36435 | |
Gwasanaethau
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I have just done some tests myself with all of the possible options for convdata (using -i -c -k) and none of them seem to work for me either. I would say that the Liverpool Street sim may well be too old for convdata to work on it. I noticed that the version of convdata available on Clive's website was made in January 2012, whereas the default timetable for Liverpool Street has November 2000 in its date stamp. It could well be that the current version of convdata is incompatible with the Liverpool Street sim.
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| Covdata and Liverpool Street 13/10/2012 at 14:46 #36436 | |
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Noisynoel
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Convdata will work on any WTT file regardless of sim or age of sim. Firstly have you downloaded convdata. Secondly is it in the same folder as the sim you are trying to run it from. Providing you have satisfied both of those criteria then it will work. Just make sure you put the .wtt file in the top box and .txt in the bottom box
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| Covdata and Liverpool Street 13/10/2012 at 15:15 #36437 | |
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Gwasanaethau
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" said:Convdata will work on any WTT file regardless of sim or age of sim. Firstly have you downloaded convdata. Secondly is it in the same folder as the sim you are trying to run it from. Providing you have satisfied both of those criteria then it will work. Just make sure you put the .wtt file in the top box and .txt in the bottom boxI am not sure what you mean by the top and bottom boxes, sorry. (EDIT: I have just realised you were referring to the converter built into some simulations - I should have read the previous posts a little more closely. I apologise. In any event, the same results are obtained as with using the command prompt.) I tried to replicate what I believe woodruff did by issuing the following commands at the prompt: convdata.exe -C "Winter 1998-9 timetable (morning).WTT" test.txtIn both cases I get the confirmation that the "Conversion completed successfully." When I try to load the test.WTT timetable from within the simulator, I get the error that woodruff mentioned (in my case: "Error loading C:\Games\SimSig\LivSt\test.WTT"). As mentioned before, I get the same results when using the -i and/or -k options in the convdata command. Last edited: 13/10/2012 at 15:25 by Gwasanaethau Reason: New information Log in to reply |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 13/10/2012 at 16:24 #36444 | |
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Peter Bennet
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email me the file Peter.bennet@SimSig.co.uk Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 13/10/2012 at 16:24 #36445 | |
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GeoffM
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Actually, I've got a feeling LivSt - being so old - might have used the original timetable format and would thus not be compatible with ConvData. I can't check right now but if you opened the original timetable supplied with the sim in Notepad, the SIMSIGT2 would be SIMSIGTT instead, I think.
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| Covdata and Liverpool Street 13/10/2012 at 17:07 #36449 | |
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woodruff
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SIMSIGT2 Just tried again with a copy of the tt supplied with the sim and when I ckecked the "SIMSIGT2" is there,[ pasted above]. The files are being converted both ways but will still not run. I tried changing the files by using another sim, [ North London this time instead of Lime street as I thought as this is a beta version this may have been the issue] but no joy. Not sure if the issue may be to do with the sim being 16 bit? Thanks for the help any way, it looks like I am going to have to do it the old fashioned way, for this sim. Log in to reply |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 13/10/2012 at 18:12 #36450 | |
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Peter Bennet
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" said:SIMSIGT2Just to ensure there is no confusion this query is about Liverpool St and not Liverpool Lime St? Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 13/10/2012 at 18:31 #36451 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Just tried a test of converting the supplied TT to text and back and it does indeed crash the Sim. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 13/10/2012 at 19:58 #36463 | |
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woodruff
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Yes it is London Liverpool Street that does not accept the tt, [ I was using Liverpool Lime Street to change the text to a sim file]. Just thought I would ask is there an old copy of the convdata that could be made available just for use on this sim? Log in to reply |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 14/10/2012 at 01:16 #36465 | |
BarryM
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Here is a 2006 copy[attachment=666]convdata.zip[/attachment]
Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Last edited: 14/10/2012 at 01:18 by BarryM Log in to reply The following user said thank you: woodruff |
| Covdata and Liverpool Street 14/10/2012 at 15:00 #36485 | |
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woodruff
204 posts |
Just tried the downlaod and it seems to work, did get an error message about "flags" but I think If I have a better look it should work.
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| Covdata and Liverpool Street 15/10/2012 at 10:24 #36497 | |
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woodruff
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Thank you for the file BarryM but still got the same issue, aka , when you actually go to run the timetable it sends back an error message. I will just have to use the built in timetable editor. Log in to reply |