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Virgin Media router set-up for Simsig on Windows 13/10/2013 at 22:49 #49948
vontrapp
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This the quickest method because I can't be bothered to type in individual port-settings for multiple games and apps!

1. Open a command prompt and type in: ipconfig
2. Note the 'Default Gateway' IP and the 'IPv4 address'. Mine are: 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.15
3. In a web-browser put the Default Gateway number in the http area and press 'enter'
4. A log-in screen will appear: the 1st box you should type 'admin' and the 2nd should be your password that you have for the router (changeme-is the default PW). A new screen with big red icons will appear and a smaller one: 'advanced settings'
5. Click on 'advanced settings' and scroll down to: 'security/DMZ
6. check the tick-box and put in the 2nd IP address in. (IPv4)
7. Click 'apply'
8. Go back to Security and scroll up to and click on 'port forwarding'.
9. Under 'add rule' type a name that you want this setting to be called.
10.Type in 'start port' 1 and 'end port' 65535.
11. Select TCP&UCP
12. In the 'IP address type your IPv4 IP number in it.
13. click 'apply'
14. Go back to 'security' and select 'firewall' and disable it.

This method will select all your ports to be forwarded for ALL games, otherwise you will have to select the individual ports to be forwarded. You will not be able to port forward for any other PC, the same ports, either.

DMZ=De-Militarized Zone and allows 1 PC to be seen, which is your IPv4 address.

Keep Windows Firewall running (if you use it). Install Windows 7 Firewall Control; this will not allow any outward bound connections until you let them. (Go into the Windows 7 Firewall Control and delete the WAV file or the sound will annoy you!) Also, in its settings, select the 'Do not show log balloon'.
I have no other firewalls, antivirus or spyware apps running except for Microsoft Essentials.

Hope this info helps.
PS This method is not for the 'security conscious'!

Last edited: 13/10/2013 at 22:57 by vontrapp
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Virgin Media router set-up for Simsig on Windows 14/10/2013 at 00:37 #49949
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I can't recommend enough to *NEVER* forwarding all ports to a machine unless you know exactly what software is listening, (hint: you probably don't), unless you're running a decent firewall and have it configured correctly.

Also, then disabling the firewall on the router, then hiding the log balloon and such? This is just asking for trouble.

Learn to add exceptions to your firewall properly, only forward ports you recognise, keep yourself safe online.

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Virgin Media router set-up for Simsig on Windows 14/10/2013 at 11:22 #49958
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Ha ha.
All my ports are 'stealth' except for 5 which are 'closed'
Unless one downloads unsafe programs, which would be stupid, there's nothing unsafe in what I've written.
Oh dear, My Simsig files/programs have gone missing..
I'llll g£t them
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Virgin Media router set-up for Simsig on Windows 14/10/2013 at 11:35 #49959
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This is classic scaremongering.
All my ports are stealth except for 5 which are closed.
If one doesn't download the hackers apps, in the first place, then a home PC is OK.
My PC is not compromised nor is it vulnerable to attacks which will 'nick' my stuff.
Anyone wishing to try are/is welcome.
By-the-way: I refuse to install such'clap-trap' as these 'all-in-one' Firewall, antivirus and spyware programs; these just hog memory and slow-down PC's, which don't have enough RAM.

These are my opinions, only.

Last edited: 14/10/2013 at 11:44 by vontrapp
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Virgin Media router set-up for Simsig on Windows 14/10/2013 at 11:58 #49961
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I'm afraid I've got to agree with Sacro!

You only need to forward one port to use Simsig, absolutely no need
To forward all of them!

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Virgin Media router set-up for Simsig on Windows 14/10/2013 at 12:23 #49962
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I am also with Sacro on this one

The risk is with what you think is going through, but is in what you don't realise is passing through.

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Virgin Media router set-up for Simsig on Windows 14/10/2013 at 13:04 #49964
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" said:
This is classic scaremongering.
All my ports are stealth except for 5 which are closed.
If one doesn't download the hackers apps, in the first place, then a home PC is OK.
My PC is not compromised nor is it vulnerable to attacks which will 'nick' my stuff.
Anyone wishing to try are/is welcome.
By-the-way: I refuse to install such'clap-trap' as these 'all-in-one' Firewall, antivirus and spyware programs; these just hog memory and slow-down PC's, which don't have enough RAM.

These are my opinions, only.
Unless you can carefully audit the source code for the system you are running then you have no idea how secure it actually is, given Microsoft release patches several times a month, I have to assume there are constant vulnerabilities going on.

Doing constant portscans is mandatory if you're going to DMZ your system, I run a firewall on systems and even then I check frequently what ports are listening.

Your PC is compromised until proven otherwise, and is always vulnerable.

You don't need to let a firewall slow your machine down, either get a hardware one upstream, or having the one on the router (and also having NAT) will provide some separation between you and the outside internet.

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Virgin Media router set-up for Simsig on Windows 14/10/2013 at 15:10 #49969
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Re point 14: I've got the same Virgin Media router type and it works fine with the firewall enabled.

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Virgin Media router set-up for Simsig on Windows 14/10/2013 at 15:49 #49970
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Re point 14: I've got the same Virgin Media router type and it works fine with the firewall enabled.

Peter
Yes, because I assume that forwarding ports to a system also adds the relevant firewall rules to allow the incoming traffic.

By disabling the firewall completely you then succeed in making the other systems more vulnerable too.

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Virgin Media router set-up for Simsig on Windows 14/10/2013 at 16:29 #49975
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" said:
This is classic scaremongering.
All my ports are stealth except for 5 which are closed.
If one doesn't download the hackers apps, in the first place, then a home PC is OK.
My PC is not compromised nor is it vulnerable to attacks which will 'nick' my stuff.
Anyone wishing to try are/is welcome.
Here's one example of why this logic is problematic. Windows already asks you when a program tries to open an inbound port. When you host a game SimSig opens a TCP server port, but only the one you tell it to use (eg 50505). There is absolutely nothing to stop me opening a different port at the same time for nefarious purposes, and the user would never know as he would assume the Windows prompt is for the port that was asked for. Of course, I would never do that, but not all software is so genuine. What is even worse is when you download what you think is a genuine program only to find it's got bundled crapware, or what looks like a genuine program but which is simply a front for less honest software.

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Virgin Media router set-up for Simsig on Windows 14/10/2013 at 16:44 #49977
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Re point 14: I've got the same Virgin Media router type and it works fine with the firewall enabled.

Peter
Yes, because I assume that forwarding ports to a system also adds the relevant firewall rules to allow the incoming traffic.

By disabling the firewall completely you then succeed in making the other systems more vulnerable too.
I'm not quite sure what you are on about here - I was stating to the original poster was that having the firewall enabled had not proven problematic in my experience so there was no need to disable it.

Peter

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Virgin Media router set-up for Simsig on Windows 14/10/2013 at 17:04 #49979
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Re point 14: I've got the same Virgin Media router type and it works fine with the firewall enabled.

Peter
Yes, because I assume that forwarding ports to a system also adds the relevant firewall rules to allow the incoming traffic.

By disabling the firewall completely you then succeed in making the other systems more vulnerable too.
I'm not quite sure what you are on about here - I was stating to the original poster was that having the firewall enabled had not proven problematic in my experience so there was no need to disable it.

Peter
Yes, and I was pointing out that adding NAT rules (to forward specific ports) adds the requisite firewall instruction to let the traffic through. I've known some routers that needed the port forwarding and also a firewall change.

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Virgin Media router set-up for Simsig on Windows 14/10/2013 at 17:23 #49982
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I tried this method however players are unable to connect. I have PF'ed the port I'm using in SimSig (50523) and any others within the range of 50520-50530. I have not disabled my firewall as I am sharing the connection with flatmates and this hasn't been a problem with my other routes before.

Edit: Just disabled UPNP and I now have connections

Last edited: 14/10/2013 at 17:27 by jetblast787
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