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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 16/03/2021 at 11:39 #137883 | |
bill_gensheet
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elltrain3 in post 137879 said:and a very long Inverness sim complete! the amount of crossings is just mad! you'd be on the phone all the time! haha... not to mention wearing out the scroll wheel ! Noticed a couple of typos, unless you have got real 'railway' spellings ... Fodderty Achterneed Acheilidh Georgemas Kildonan OC is adjacent to the station, and Learable some distance north. http://www.gensheet.co.uk/photo2L/158740_kildonan.jpg Kinbrace LC is north of the station Does Georgemas not also have route buttons for Thurso / south like Dingwall ? Bill Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 16/03/2021 at 12:19 #137884 | |
Albert
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And Kyle of Lochalsh.
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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 16/03/2021 at 13:23 #137885 | |
Steamer
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peterb in post 137880 said:Steamer in post 137868 said:Cheers, the photos of that box weren't as clear as some of the others.My take on the S&C:Blea Moor's UGL starter is BM19. Does anyone know if Settle Jn has an annunciator on the Carnforth line? It's not marked on the box diagram as far as I can tell, but equally I can't imagine they just pull off and pray given the length of the section. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 16/03/2021 at 14:14 #137886 | |
elltrain3
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Yeah, haha sorry about the spellings xD was a long night trawling the appendix and finished it at 2am! and not sure about georgemas junc its all done via a button on the platform there. The diver presses as to the route requested Resident Mock Maker! / "The Out Of Control Host" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: bill_gensheet |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 16/03/2021 at 17:31 #137887 | |
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elltrain3 in post 137879 said:and a very long Inverness sim complete! the amount of crossings is just mad! you'd be on the phone all the time! haha That’s why the real thing has a level crossing desk. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Guts |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 16/03/2021 at 17:56 #137888 | |
bill_gensheet
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The background operation at Dingwall, from the Scot-Rail group >> They work when the plunger on the platform is pressed to set the desired route at the junction. The track circuit in the platform has to be occupied to complete the operation, when either B for Branch (Kyle) or M for Main (North) will appear in the theatre route indicator, along with the steady PSI light and flashing blue TPWS light. For trains entering Dingwall from the north or from Kyle, they occupy track circuits which set the junction points. When they and the hydraulically sprung points loop points are detected in the correct position the PSI on the approach to the junction will illuminate. << Since then the yellow / off PSI has become a yellow / flashing red PSI Also you'd need to cope with the 'loop clear' phone call from the driver or replicate invisibly via track circuiting. This allows a Kyle train to depart while a Wick train is still between Dingwall and Evanton IB / Invergordon. I think it has been said before that any actual FNL SimSig is more likely be pre-RETB. Bill Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 16/03/2021 at 19:41 #137890 | |
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Steamer in post 137885 said:peterb in post 137880 said:Do shout if you want any more info regarding BM - it became my specialist subject during Lockdown.Steamer in post 137868 said:Cheers, the photos of that box weren't as clear as some of the others.My take on the S&C:Blea Moor's UGL starter is BM19. No annunciator as far as I know either, but there's about 400 yards between SJ7 and SJ8 - might that be sufficient? bill_gensheet in post 137888 said: The background operation at Dingwall, from the Scot-Rail groupLikewise at Crianlarich and Georgemas, I understand. As I think someone has said already - if WHL/FNL were simulated, in RETB era, then it would be similar to the Hereford sim yet on a bigger scale. I for one would still buy it though... Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 16/03/2021 at 19:54 #137892 | |
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elltrain3 in post 137879 said:and a very long Inverness sim complete! the amount of crossings is just mad! you'd be on the phone all the time! haha Nice: looks like it would be a challenge on a single-player! Dave Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 16/03/2021 at 20:05 #137894 | |
elltrain3
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Yeah, the station and shunts would keep you busy, and also keeping an eye on X-ings & the RETB lines would be an interesting sim to play
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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 16/03/2021 at 21:05 #137899 | |
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peterb in post 137890 said:Steamer in post 137885 said:The only other thing that crossed my mind at Blea Moor was whether the Timber/VQ siding could be accessed from the north; for some reason I had it in my head that a working from Carlisle ran to it at some point, but looking at the diagram there's nothing to allow it.peterb in post 137880 said:Do shout if you want any more info regarding BM - it became my specialist subject during Lockdown.Steamer in post 137868 said:Cheers, the photos of that box weren't as clear as some of the others.My take on the S&C:Blea Moor's UGL starter is BM19. Quote: No annunciator as far as I know either, but there's about 400 yards between SJ7 and SJ8 - might that be sufficient?Unlike the branch distant at Hellifield, the one from Carnforth is worked, so the intention seems to be there to give a clear run to a train off the branch. I spent a couple of hours photographing from the bridge at Settle Jn last summer, and as I recall the signals were pulled off a few minutes before the train off the branch passed. The area was relatively busy around that time, so I just can't imagine they were cleared on blind faith. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 16/03/2021 at 21:49 #137901 | |
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The sectional appendix shows a 15mph limit over Settle Junction from Carnforth, I wonder if the distant isn't worked in practice during busy periods (assuming no annunciator, and I agree it seems likely there is one) as a clear distant is of limited value when the train has be slowed right down anyway.
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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 17/03/2021 at 08:36 #137913 | |
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Steamer in post 137899 said:No - access is from the down line only. Likewise at Arcow. I think there have been workings from Carlisle but these would have gone the long way round via Clitheroe. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Steamer |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 17/03/2021 at 08:44 #137914 | |
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jc92 in post 137901 said:The sectional appendix shows a 15mph limit over Settle Junction from Carnforth, I wonder if the distant isn't worked in practice during busy periods (assuming no annunciator, and I agree it seems likely there is one) as a clear distant is of limited value when the train has be slowed right down anyway.Looks like the distant is actually colour light ( https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0535081,-2.2904057,3a,62.1y,172.14h,86.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5uMjCx4RrFmzoXO0QtdHuw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 ) so presumably it can show both caution and clear aspects There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Last edited: 17/03/2021 at 08:59 by Peter Bennet Reason: Link was not working properly due to brackets Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 17/03/2021 at 09:02 #137915 | |
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Steamer in post 137899 said:peterb in post 137890 said:I can't think off-hand where I've seen it, but it's not unknown for SBSIs to mandate offering forward and/or clearing signals x minutes after TES received from the rear box.Steamer in post 137885 said:The only other thing that crossed my mind at Blea Moor was whether the Timber/VQ siding could be accessed from the north; for some reason I had it in my head that a working from Carlisle ran to it at some point, but looking at the diagram there's nothing to allow it.peterb in post 137880 said:Do shout if you want any more info regarding BM - it became my specialist subject during Lockdown.Steamer in post 137868 said:Cheers, the photos of that box weren't as clear as some of the others.My take on the S&C:Blea Moor's UGL starter is BM19. Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 17/03/2021 at 11:41 #137916 | |
jc92
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Splodge in post 137914 said:jc92 in post 137901 said:Steamer has already said that. It's definitely a worked distant. The point is that giving the driver a clear road from the distant may have limited value, so maybe when busy, they don't pull off in time to give the driver a green, if no annunciator is provided.The sectional appendix shows a 15mph limit over Settle Junction from Carnforth, I wonder if the distant isn't worked in practice during busy periods (assuming no annunciator, and I agree it seems likely there is one) as a clear distant is of limited value when the train has be slowed right down anyway.Looks like the distant is actually colour light ( https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0535081,-2.2904057,3a,62.1y,172.14h,86.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5uMjCx4RrFmzoXO0QtdHuw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 ) so presumably it can show both caution and clear aspects "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 17/03/2021 at 11:43 #137918 | |
jc92
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kbarber in post 137915 said:Steamer in post 137899 said:Hammerton & Cattal both have that mandated due to long single line sections, and Line clear effectively results in "locking" the intermediate crossings worked by keepers so its done reduce the amount of time this occurs for. its something like 3 or 4 mins after TES. the trouble with this section is purely that its incredibly long (the longest in fact) with multiple stations and delay possibilities.peterb in post 137890 said:I can't think off-hand where I've seen it, but it's not unknown for SBSIs to mandate offering forward and/or clearing signals x minutes after TES received from the rear box.Steamer in post 137885 said:The only other thing that crossed my mind at Blea Moor was whether the Timber/VQ siding could be accessed from the north; for some reason I had it in my head that a working from Carlisle ran to it at some point, but looking at the diagram there's nothing to allow it.peterb in post 137880 said:Do shout if you want any more info regarding BM - it became my specialist subject during Lockdown.Steamer in post 137868 said:Cheers, the photos of that box weren't as clear as some of the others.My take on the S&C:Blea Moor's UGL starter is BM19. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: kbarber |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 19/03/2021 at 18:07 #137977 | |
elltrain3
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A quick Stranraer Sim (Paisley Fringe To Stranraer Hbr) Electric Train Tablet here (ETT) Plus a complex and weird arrangement at Dunragit where the line joins the original Port Road From Carlisle As when Stranraer is switched "out" then a key token is locked into the frame at Dunragit, which in turn allows the OTS to be removed so done my best to replicate that in this mock, apart from a "king" lever at Stranraer as not sure how that'd work in SimSig. Also clueless on the Track Circuit arrangement at Stranraer Harbour as due to the box not having been open regularly since 2007 and even little-used before then means there isn't an illuminated diagram nor are there any clear shots of the diagram. lovely line though! ![]() Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Resident Mock Maker! / "The Out Of Control Host" Last edited: 19/03/2021 at 18:08 by elltrain3 Reason: None given Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 19/03/2021 at 18:49 #137979 | |
bill_gensheet
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A SimSig would simply have a 'generic green round' control and when clicked (with the right conditions to Dunragit and points set appropriately) would clear both signals. That would then put Dunragit in 'OTW' mode. Assume you'd worked from this diagram ? https://signalbox.org/~SBdiagrams/stranraerhbr.jpg As TC allow a remote signaller to 'see' train positions, it would not be unreasonable to allow a local signaller to 'see' any trains that would be visible out of the windows - ie TC for all the station area. Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 19/03/2021 at 19:17 #137980 | |
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elltrain3 in post 137977 said:A quick Stranraer Sim (Paisley Fringe To Stranraer Hbr) Would make a nice one-layer sim for practicing absolute block. This route is on my "intention to photo" list. Dave Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 19/03/2021 at 19:45 #137981 | |
jc92
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It would if there was any absolute block on it.
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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 19/03/2021 at 20:38 #137982 | |
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bill_gensheet in post 137979 said:A SimSig would simply have a 'generic green round' control and when clicked (with the right conditions to Dunragit and points set appropriately) would clear both signals.I would if I could've found that diagram! i knew It existed but couldn't find it! So there are some TC's just not many! and ah yeah, might go add the roundel in! and yeah No Absolute Block here, All Scottish Region Tokenless Block/Electric Train Tablet (Unique to this line)/One Train Staff & Electric Key Token Resident Mock Maker! / "The Out Of Control Host" Last edited: 19/03/2021 at 20:40 by elltrain3 Reason: None given Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 19/03/2021 at 20:54 #137983 | |
elltrain3
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A revised sim adding the King at Stranraer and adding some more TC's![]() Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Resident Mock Maker! / "The Out Of Control Host" Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 19/03/2021 at 21:27 #137984 | |
bill_gensheet
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Would have thought that the king lever required 12 / 13 / 14 rev, 17 normal, and it would then *allow* the signals (10, 11, 15) to be cleared into each other as normally 11 and 15 both off would not be allowed. Equally 10, 11, 15 back 'on' to replace the lever Bill Last edited: 19/03/2021 at 21:28 by bill_gensheet Reason: add 17 N Log in to reply |
A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 19/03/2021 at 21:33 #137985 | |
elltrain3
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Yeah, i think it would be done that way, but assumed you wouldn't say the points need to be moved as SimSig does that automatically when you set the route from the signals
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A little Mock-SimSig Fun! 19/03/2021 at 21:54 #137986 | |
bill_gensheet
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The likes of CSCOT at higher difficult levels needs points to be set manually before signals, so I'd expect the same for a king lever, and the signals to then follow automatically or be free.
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