Crewe FAQ

Had a train (sorry, no save, I remembered a few days later) depart Crewe for the Electric Depot. Accidentally signaled from CE161 to SW2 and he didn't call wrong route. Luckily I noticed in time and I had to stop and reverse him at SW13 to go in through the back door.

Secondly, I had an LE reverse at Western Sidings to go into the wagon shop. His headcode disappeared once arrived at Western Sidings even though he was only reversing there and not exiting.

Thirdly, it might be worth reviewing the interpose functionality on the Gresty Lane Down Through Siding signals GL53, GL9014, GL9015 (which don't have it) and GL55 & GL46 (which do have it). A train which is timetabled through the Down Through loses its headcode unless manually interposed on GL46. I imagine this might be intended behaviour.

Fourth, and final - Trains departing platform 1 towards Wilmslow don't pick up a TD interposed on CE136 at the other end of the platform, unlike the other through platforms at Crewe. The TD gets left and the train departs without a code. This doesn't happen if the train is signalled into the EMU stabling siding, however.

All these are in the 2007 - 2015 era, I've not checked any other era.

MrSuttonmann in post 151707 said:

Fourth, and final - Trains departing platform 1 towards Wilmslow don't pick up a TD interposed on CE136 at the other end of the platform, unlike the other through platforms at Crewe. The TD gets left and the train departs without a code. This doesn't happen if the train is signalled into the EMU stabling siding, however.

Mantis 38629 - This is the only bit I will need a save on. I can see that there is something different between the TD stepping between Platforms 1 & 5 but I can't see why a TD would be getting left at the berth for CE136 and not shuttling across, unless Signal CE136 was also showing a proceed aspect.

pedroathome in post 151708 said:

MrSuttonmann in post 151707 said:

Fourth, and final - Trains departing platform 1 towards Wilmslow don't pick up a TD interposed on CE136 at the other end of the platform, unlike the other through platforms at Crewe. The TD gets left and the train departs without a code. This doesn't happen if the train is signalled into the EMU stabling siding, however.

Mantis 38629 - This is the only bit I will need a save on. I can see that there is something different between the TD stepping between Platforms 1 & 5 but I can't see why a TD would be getting left at the berth for CE136 and not shuttling across, unless Signal CE136 was also showing a proceed aspect.

Hi James, thanks for looking at and clarifying these issues.

Please ignore my fourth issue - it seems I was mistaken. The trains DO leave with an interposed TD on the far signal, however if you have a train enter P1 from Sandbach which returns back to Manchester and interpose the new TD on the departure end, it will leave the old TD on the far end signal after departure. I saw this happen and incorrectly assumed that the train had left without its headcode.

Found two missing paths from Crewe Platform 9 to FL/SL Crewe Coal Yard SB. Both throw up the pathing error in the latest era. Crewe Platform 10 to FL/SL Crewe Coal Yard SB is all ok no issues.

HST125Scorton in post 151861 said:

Found two missing paths from Crewe Platform 9 to FL/SL Crewe Coal Yard SB. Both throw up the pathing error in the latest era. Crewe Platform 10 to FL/SL Crewe Coal Yard SB is all ok no issues.

It's not possible to depart platform 9 towards Crewe Coal Yard, you can only route onto the Down / Up Chester lines.

Does the same thing apply to the berth for the Down Refuge Siding at Crewe? You can manually interpose a headcode, but what's the point of it if you have to do that?

Routes to the Shunt Neck, Carriage Shed, Down Refuge Siding, CE543 and CE551 will initially step, before clearing out as the train goes into the siding. Conversely, on the North end of the panel, descriptions will clear out when stepping towards the Engine Siding (CE570).

Should there be a route from NH7 to Up Arrival 2? It looks possible from the track layout but I get the 'no route between selected signals' warning when I try it

Thanks for checking.

For my sins I'm trying the Salop Goods closure scenario - the only issue I'm having is the headcode transfer from Crewe PSB to Sorting Sidings via NH7/CE543 seems very hit and miss as to whether it works, even though I've consistently used the through acceptance buttons (I know this is more for point locking) - sometimes the headcode transfers right through onto the next panel, other times it sticks at the 'wrong' end on the slot screen. Does a completely through route need to be set (rather than holding at NH7/CE543)?

Just a query regarding freight at Basford Hall SSM/SSN that are booked to stop for 20-30min upto 1 hour will the trains 'fall off the sim?' while waiting there booked time? Example train Freightliner's 6V51 Tunstead to Park Royal Macron has a layover from 0029-0118. If I place into the Arrival road either will it stay within the yard and come back out if I have 'Wait for Time' on it? I'll presume I'll need Basford Hall SSM/SSN in the timetable?

From the manual 'Trains which have been routed via either the Up Arrival No.1 or No.2 or the Up Loop on Sorting Sidings North, and are timetabled through to Basford Hall Junction will reappear on the respective Up Departure No.1 or No.2 and Up Neck. As with trains entering, they will phone for permission to pass the stop board.'

HST125Scorton in post 151945 said:

Just a query regarding freight at Basford Hall SSM/SSN that are booked to stop for 20-30min upto 1 hour will the trains 'fall off the sim?' while waiting there booked time? Example train Freightliner's 6V51 Tunstead to Park Royal Macron has a layover from 0029-0118. If I place into the Arrival road either will it stay within the yard and come back out if I have 'Wait for Time' on it? I'll presume I'll need Basford Hall SSM/SSN in the timetable?

From the manual 'Trains which have been routed via either the Up Arrival No.1 or No.2 or the Up Loop on Sorting Sidings North, and are timetabled through to Basford Hall Junction will reappear on the respective Up Departure No.1 or No.2 and Up Neck. As with trains entering, they will phone for permission to pass the stop board.'

If the train is booked to stop in Basford Hall, and then continue south, the schedule has to be split as the train will fall off the sim when it enters Basford Hall yard, and will need a second schedule for it to enter at the south end of the yard.

The line from the manual only relates to trains that are not booked to enter Basford Hall (booked to travel on the independant lines) but are diverted into the yard

The line from the manual only relates to trains that are not booked to enter Basford Hall (booked to travel on the independant lines) but are diverted into the yard

question folks : 1M13 goes through Crewe station nonstop and I had it signalled through on the UF

it slows down to 15mph through the station on the UF . Is this correct ?

rerunning the save and it doesnt happen drops to 80 only.

sorry ! If it happens again I'll try and trap it in a save