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Is accessing Fairwater Yard from Taunton P3 possible? Today at 17:12 #160063
M'vy
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I've come up in this situation 1V52 is delayed on P2 until 1440, and 6C73 is coming right behind. It is 11 minutes late, but would still be blocking the line if plaftormed on P2.

Trouble is, I'm not sure if I can re-platform on P3 and still manage to get the train to Fairwater Yard.

Is it possible to come off the main lack and back into the relief? From reading the diagram and some try, I don't think so. The Norton Fitzwarren shunt does not seem to allow swapping from down to up (which probably make sense since it's a high speed track here). I guess it would be possible to keep down until Tiverton Junction, and then reverse through E637. But I don't think I want a 6 train reversing for that long, given than even at front speed, this would probably not be beneficial anyway.

Have I got not choice but to leave 6C73 a E118 blocking the down main into Taunton, and hope it does not put other train late?




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Is accessing Fairwater Yard from Taunton P3 possible? Today at 17:54 #160064
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At Norton Fitzwarren trains to access the WSR had to come from the relief line, not down main, and the up line LOS is the same. There is no PL aspect on E22.

Not sure if the local rules would allow it, but you could let 6C73 in behind 1V52 as the platform is permissive, then any further trains have the DM & P3 to keep going.

Else just sit it out.

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Is accessing Fairwater Yard from Taunton P3 possible? Today at 19:39 #160065
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Can I bring another train in behind without it being a call-on route?

Edit: oh are call-on route actually not necessary resulting in a join?

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Is accessing Fairwater Yard from Taunton P3 possible? Today at 19:50 #160066
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Call-on admits a second train to an already occupied section of track. By itself the call-on does not cause trains to attach to one another. A join is only carried out if the timetable specifically says that both trains are to join at this location - marked in the timetable by an activity "J:(train number)".
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Is accessing Fairwater Yard from Taunton P3 possible? Today at 20:01 #160067
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Should be noted that mixing freight and passenger in a section is somewhat frowned upon; I very much doubt this would be permitted in reality.

Sometimes you just have to suck up a bit of delay. Doesn't seem to be that big a problem in the scheme of things?

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Is accessing Fairwater Yard from Taunton P3 possible? Today at 20:35 #160068
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Steamer in post 160067 said:
Should be noted that mixing freight and passenger in a section is somewhat frowned upon; I very much doubt this would be permitted in reality.
That's a good observation.

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Is accessing Fairwater Yard from Taunton P3 possible? Today at 21:02 #160069
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Freight and passenger trains are not allowed to work permissively to each other.

On platform lines, freight trains cannot work permissively, the only trains that can work permissively on platform lines are passenger trains, ECS, light locos and RHTTs and things.

On goods lines and passenger lines (not platform lines) passenger trains are not permitted to work permissively, only freight, ECS, light locos, RHTTs etc. can work permissively.

I highly doubt there's anything in the sectional appendix that would alter this at this location.

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Is accessing Fairwater Yard from Taunton P3 possible? Today at 21:59 #160070
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TBH if the delays are going to stack up, and if the freight driver has the route knowledge, I'd see if Exeter New Yard could accept the train, and run it back to Fairwater Yard (with a run-round to enable the propelling move) later!
Jamie S (JAMS)
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