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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 10/02/2020 at 21:40 #123223
JaBaRu
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14 posts 		Hi!

I love SimSig but I'm not a biggest fan of setting my windows how I like them every time.
I started writing this little application to make my life a bit easier.
It's far from being finished, very much in it's infancy, but maybe you will also find it useful.
I will be grateful for any feedback and ideas.



[Get positions] - reads positions of SimSig windows
[Set positions] - sets positions of windows as specified in the edit fields
[Save settings] - saves settings as default values

Basic workflow:
First use:
- Set SimSig windows as you like them
- Click [Get positions]
- Click [Save settings]
Next time:
- Start SimSig
- Open windows that are not visible by default (like Train List or Timetable)
- Click [Set positions] to restore your saved layout
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 10/02/2020 at 21:46 #123224
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332 posts 		Maybe SimSig could have a remember window positions option for a future release? Raised a feature request in the bug tracker, #29284.
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 10/02/2020 at 21:58 #123226
JaBaRu
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14 posts 		Indeed, that would be great.
This is a "workaround" tool until it makes it's way into SimSig itself.
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 10/02/2020 at 22:17 #123228
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5269 posts 		Edgemaster in post 123224 said:
Maybe SimSig could have a remember window positions option for a future release? Raised a feature request in the bug tracker, #29284.
Duplicate of #5774.
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 10/02/2020 at 22:23 #123230
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1189 posts 		It would be great if the tool could remember different settings collections for different sims, as I lay each one out differently.

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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 10/02/2020 at 23:50 #123235
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332 posts 		postal in post 123228 said:
Edgemaster in post 123224 said:
Maybe SimSig could have a remember window positions option for a future release? Raised a feature request in the bug tracker, #29284.
Duplicate of #5774.
Thanks, I did have a search but couldn't find that one.
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 11/02/2020 at 14:00 #123243
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1795 posts 		Something that bugs me a little bit is having to click the Sticky Note 'OK' button after inputting text.
It would be much better if you could just hit the 'Enter' key on your keyboard.

Would it be possible to implement this?
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 11/02/2020 at 14:57 #123244
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5269 posts 		bugsy in post 123243 said:
Something that bugs me a little bit is having to click the Sticky Note 'OK' button after inputting text.
It would be much better if you could just hit the 'Enter' key on your keyboard.

Would it be possible to implement this?
First requested through the Forum in 2012 - see here.
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 11/02/2020 at 16:42 #123245
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1795 posts 		postal in post 123244 said:
bugsy in post 123243 said:
Something that bugs me a little bit is having to click the Sticky Note 'OK' button after inputting text.
It would be much better if you could just hit the 'Enter' key on your keyboard.

Would it be possible to implement this?
First requested through the Forum in 2012 - see here.
The Alt+O idea mentioned in that post will do just fine. As Max said, if you are using two hands to type the sticky note, it's quite easy to follow your typing with Alt*O

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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 11/02/2020 at 17:06 #123246
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895 posts 		bugsy in post 123245 said:
postal in post 123244 said:
bugsy in post 123243 said:
Something that bugs me a little bit is having to click the Sticky Note 'OK' button after inputting text.
It would be much better if you could just hit the 'Enter' key on your keyboard.

Would it be possible to implement this?
First requested through the Forum in 2012 - see here.
The Alt+O idea mentioned in that post will do just fine. As Max said, if you are using two hands to type the sticky note, it's quite easy to follow your typing with Alt*O

Thanks Postal
Bugsy, are you aware that Alt + O is already implemented in all Loader sims for clicking the Ok button on a sticky note? ALt+A also cancels the window, and Alt+D will delete the sticky note

In the Simsig windows, any button (or tab) that has a letter underlined, if you press Alt and the underlined letter, it will execute that action or open that tab. And its not just Simsig, its a Windows Default short cutting method
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 11/02/2020 at 19:11 #123247
JaBaRu
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14 posts 		Saving multiple configurations is already on my To-Do list :)
I will also check what I can do about Sticky Notes.
I should have some time on Friday to play around with it.
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 11/02/2020 at 19:32 #123248
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2799 posts 		bugsy in post 123243 said:
Something that bugs me a little bit is having to click the Sticky Note 'OK' button after inputting text.
It would be much better if you could just hit the 'Enter' key on your keyboard.
But isn't "Enter" how you start a new paragraph?
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 11/02/2020 at 21:08 #123249
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1795 posts 		clive in post 123248 said:
bugsy in post 123243 said:
Something that bugs me a little bit is having to click the Sticky Note 'OK' button after inputting text.
It would be much better if you could just hit the 'Enter' key on your keyboard.
But isn't "Enter" how you start a new paragraph?
That's also true, but I thought that as it was possible to press the "Enter" key after interposing a TD in "Interpose" text box in order to close it, that the same action could be simply applied to the "Sticky Notes" text box. Doesn't matter now though as I have been told how to do it using keyboard strokes
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 12/02/2020 at 02:23 #123253
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386 posts 		bugsy in post 123249 said:
I thought that as it was possible to press the "Enter" key after interposing a TD in "Interpose" text box in order to close it, that the same action could be simply applied to the "Sticky Notes" text box.
The difference is that the interpose box is a single line text field, so Enter to commit is reasonable as there is no use for entering a newline. The sticky notes box, on the other hand, is multiline; if Enter committed the dialog, there would be no keystroke left to add a newline!
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 12/02/2020 at 10:28 #123254
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45 posts 		Several applications I use in my "day-job" have ALT-Enter to solve this problem. It's rather more instinctive than ALT-O. Perhaps SimSig could allow both in a future incarnation?
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 12/02/2020 at 15:49 #123266
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6380 posts 		Richard42 in post 123254 said:
Several applications I use in my "day-job" have ALT-Enter to solve this problem. It's rather more instinctive than ALT-O. Perhaps SimSig could allow both in a future incarnation?
I'll see if this can be done - Mantis 0029289.

As others have said, using Enter alone can't be used, otherwise you would struggle to use multi-line notes.
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 12/02/2020 at 16:57 #123268
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5269 posts 		GeoffM in post 123266 said:
As others have said, using Enter alone can't be used, otherwise you would struggle to use multi-line notes.
Not suggesting it is a good idea and would probably take more time than is justified to code it, but you could use Alt + Enter for new line and Enter to post the sticky.
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 12/02/2020 at 18:12 #123272
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386 posts 		To toss further confusion into the mix, I know of some applications that use Enter to submit and Shift+Enter to insert a newline.
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 12/02/2020 at 19:18 #123273
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1611 posts 		In the absence of a formal equivalent, can the unofficial tool add support for the Simplifier (F8) and Multiplayer Messages (F10) windows?
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 12/02/2020 at 20:25 #123276
JaBaRu
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14 posts 		JamesN in post 123273 said:
In the absence of a formal equivalent, can the unofficial tool add support for the Simplifier (F8) and Multiplayer Messages (F10) windows?
To also save their positions? Sure, shouldn't be a problem.
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 16/02/2020 at 10:35 #123315
JaBaRu
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14 posts 		New version available:



Changes:
- Support for multiple configurations
- Simplifier and Multiplayer Messages windows added
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 16/02/2020 at 11:56 #123316
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5419 posts 		Hi, once you are happy with a version can I suggest you upload to https://www.SimSig.co.uk/File/Create
With category User-contributed>Other stuff.

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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 16/02/2020 at 16:13 #123317
JaBaRu
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14 posts 		Thanks for the suggestion. I'll do that next time
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 16/02/2020 at 16:50 #123318
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1795 posts 		I use three screens, the laptop and two monitors, one either side of the laptop. Once a simulation has loaded and I have altered the depth of the layout, I stretch the layout across all three screens. I then open and position six windows (usually put in the same place), with two on each of the three screens above the layout. I sometimes open even more depending on the sim.

I assume that this little application, or something similar, is one that I and others would be able to use, as it is a bit tiresome having to arrange the windows every time?
Also, if people's windows differ from those shown in the example, could modifications be made to suit an individual's layout?
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SimSig Tools - SimSig helper app 16/02/2020 at 18:09 #123319
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5419 posts 		I think the idea is that you set the numbers yourself and it remembers them.

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