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Missing Ashburys arr/dep entry point 04/04/2022 at 23:00 #146033
Guts
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In the 2019 timetable 5J73, 5J66, 5S73, 5M79 and 5R28 should enter from Ashburys Arr/Dep line to be able to reverse correctly at Ashburys to head back to Phillips Park Sth Jn.

They can't currently do that because there isn't an entry point for Ashbury Arr/Dep. I'm playing it chained so I can reroute from Man Picc but on a standalone sim running, you'd have to authorise the train to proceed where there isn't a signalled move, UNLESS the GL@ Ardwick brings them onto the Arr/Dep

Similarly 4E70, 6E33 and 6H52 cannot enter Ashbury SS when if they enter from Up East.

If the Ardwick GL works, then the timetable in Man Picc 2019 need changing to show Ashbury Arr/Dep. Only 4E70 and 6E33 show Ashburys Arr/Dep (Can't remember if I saved these changes in my copy either or it's in the original)

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Missing Ashburys arr/dep entry point 05/04/2022 at 00:43 #146034
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I tried a few pf those trains and they all came in on the Arr/Dep line correctly. What happened when you ran it? Have you modified the timetable to remove the GL at Ardwick?
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Missing Ashburys arr/dep entry point 05/04/2022 at 20:49 #146051
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GeoffM in post 146034 said:
I tried a few pf those trains and they all came in on the Arr/Dep line correctly. What happened when you ran it? Have you modified the timetable to remove the GL at Ardwick?
This is good news.

My issue was playing it chained, the trains mentioned don't have Ashburys Arr/Dep as their exit points.

This means the issue is with the Man Picc 2019 timetable. I don't know if I've captured them all, as in every train that requires their timetable changing.

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Missing Ashburys arr/dep entry point 06/04/2022 at 05:48 #146053
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You said the Manchester East sim was wrong... now you're saying the Manchester Piccadilly timetable is wrong.

The TPR for LNW North, section NW5015 does not list Ashburys Arr/Dep as a mandatory timing point. Instead it states the following:
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Ardwick: GL applies to trains running via the Arrival & Departure Line to the Down Goods at Ashburys
Thus you just need to read the timetable and if it says GL at Ardwick, route it onto the Arr/Dep line. I checked the Man Picc timetable for some of the trains you mention and they all have the GL line code.

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Missing Ashburys arr/dep entry point 06/04/2022 at 17:10 #146059
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It was my mistake. They happen. I thought it was an issue with Manchester East but you have proven it to be an issue with Man Picc 2019 timetable.

I had assumed that because there wasn't an Ashbury Arr/Dep entry point that the timetable had been completed to the best of the abilities (ie. Missing path) and trains were being send along Up East, rather than being sent through Ashbury Arr/Dep.

I hadn't noticed the GL routing personally, I also think that by putting in Ashbury Arr/Dep, it's a clearer indication as to where the train should be sent. I guess it come down to personal preference, and that I missed it. LOL

Thanks for looking into it.

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Missing Ashburys arr/dep entry point 06/04/2022 at 17:41 #146062
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Guts in post 146059 said:
but you have proven it to be an issue with Man Picc 2019 timetable.
Um... I thought I'd proven it not to be a problem?!

Guts in post 146059 said:
I had assumed that because there wasn't an Ashbury Arr/Dep entry point that the timetable had been completed to the best of the abilities (ie. Missing path) and trains were being send along Up East, rather than being sent through Ashbury Arr/Dep.

I also think that by putting in Ashbury Arr/Dep, it's a clearer indication as to where the train should be sent. I guess it come down to personal preference, and that I missed it. LOL
If it's not in the NR timetable then why would we put it in artificially?

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Last edited: 07/04/2022 at 17:13 by GeoffM
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