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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 18:56 #127870
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Online 		Finally, it’s here!

After a long wait version 5 of the SimSig loader is now released!

All the information you need is contained in this post; should you have any questions please post them in below and we will either update the document or answer below.

We have tested this relentlessly for months but even the most stringent testing will miss something so obvious, however we hope we covered everything. It is however really important you follow the instructions in the document: any deviations and it may not work for you and it will take us some time to reset everything.

Updates to Existing Sims - when you download the new loader you will have a number of updates which will follow
41 sim updates
56 timetable updates

Please be patient, the demand for updates at the time of release will be high and it may take longer than you normally expect.

Next week we will also be releasing some new sims, and to mark the cancelled Edinburgh meet there is a monster chain planned for Saturday 4th July.

Now we are on version 5 we can return to a more normal release program so expect further releases later this year.

[Edit] Just to note that numerous posts in this thread have been moved as they are no longer relevant.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:23 #127888
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4869 posts 		Right then, if you open up your loader and press "Check for updates", you should get loader 5.2 when it starts up again it will offer you the upgrade wizard :)

(Would be good if you could let us know if it works)

For those who are reading this from now, you'll get loader 5.2 straight from 4.15.1 and the upgrade wizard should run straight away.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:24 #127891
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149 posts 		Can we please have an option to get the new fonts back? As some one with not so great vision the new font is very soft and hard to read. The width seems very narrow and intercharacter spacing (kerning) isn't very good. (Pl looks almost like an H, for insstance).
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:29 #127897
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Online 		Chromatix in post 127889 said:
What always trips me up on this site is that the passwords I normally use are not accepted by this site's password "quality" rules. Every time I go to the reset password screen, I am *then* reminded of what the rules are, and I immediately remember what alternative password I devised to fit them.
This is actually quite common on websites. Not saying it's right; just common.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:33 #127903
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149 posts 		I really dislike the new "toolbar". Sad to see that Simsig has fallen into the cult of the hamburger menu. BRING BACK REAL MENUS!!!!
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:34 #127904
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149 posts 		Is there an option to rollback?

I much prefer v4 and would rather just stick with the latest v4 version of sims. I don't play multiplayer.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:37 #127908
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1111 posts 		TylerE in post 127904 said:
Is there an option to rollback?

I much prefer v4 and would rather just stick with the latest v4 version of sims. I don't play multiplayer.
So then you miss out on all the new sims in the pipeline as they use features that are only in the V5 loader
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:39 #127912
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4869 posts 		Gents, once again can I just ask you to bear with us while we sort out the minor issue with the upgrade wizard. As much as we want the release to go smoothly, there are always things that crop up when we go public.

We're all busy in the background and I'll make sure we are posting updates here.

For reference, you don't need to login to the old license manager with Loader V5, it's obsolete and is built into the new loader.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:40 #127914
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271 posts 		elltrain3 in post 127911 said:
I've got to the loader screen on V5.2 But can't find the license manager and none of my paid sims are unlocked, when i did the update it goes through all the sims then back around to Cardiff before stopping
Actually if you scroll up on the update window, the last section of files listed are those that are redundant/obsolete and can be removed.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:40 #127916
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149 posts 		Meld in post 127908 said:
TylerE in post 127904 said:
Is there an option to rollback?

I much prefer v4 and would rather just stick with the latest v4 version of sims. I don't play multiplayer.
So then you miss out on all the new sims in the pipeline as they use features that are only in the V5 loader
Better than not being able to play any of the multitude of sims I've already purchased for more than 5 minutes without my eyes hurting because I'm struggling to read the font.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:52 #127930
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121 posts 		I've just tried it, and I have to say, it's quite a change, and I'm pretty sure I will need some time to get used to it. But at first glance it looks fancy, I like it :)

Thank you guys!
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:53 #127932
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4869 posts 		Right then, if you run the upgrade wizard now on loader V5.2, it should correctly transition all of the licenses.

Just a quick reminder you don't want to use the old standalone license manager anymore, it's obsolete with Loader V5.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:54 #127933
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43 posts 		Are the Cardiff files then end of the update? As I don’t get anything after them but when I go onto a sim still missing licences
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:55 #127934
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373 posts 		How does one re-run the upgrade wizard?
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:56 #127935
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123 posts 		I sufferd from an issue with he license wizard failing when I ran it (though it was a 5.1 version at the time so maybe the fix already got into 5.2 for all I know).
Stupidly I didn't screenshot the error message, though I'm not certain if the words "error 2" is likely to mean much anyway.

Moderator redacted a section as the work around is no longer required

As for the many sims appearing to repeatedly update, perhaps the system could be clearer about the update process reaching the remove redundant files state, as there is no intuitive indication that you need to scroll back many lines through the log to find the instruction that you should use the button so I see why people assumed the update had paused (the first few times I just took the fact that the close button was responsive to indicate the update had completed without me even noticing the remove obsolete files button), but once I realised that it was wanting to delete files which had been obsoleted by differently names multi-seed versions of the same tt and I then used the button everything now seems to be working.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:56 #127936
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452 posts 		headshot119 in post 127932 said:
Right then, if you run the upgrade wizard now on loader V5.2, it should correctly transition all of the licenses.

Just a quick reminder you don't want to use the old standalone license manager anymore, it's obsolete with Loader V5.
It now appears to be working correctly for me.

Thanks to Geoff and the team for all the work in this!

Is there a summary of which sims have been updated?
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:56 #127937
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4869 posts 		valenta43002 in post 127933 said:
Are the Cardiff files then end of the update? As I don’t get anything after them but when I go onto a sim still missing licences
On the left hand side click "clean up obsolete files", I'm pretty sure it's downloading the full updates, and is just showing obsolete files for Cardiff at the end which can be cleaned up.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:57 #127938
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271 posts 		headshot119 in post 127932 said:
Right then, if you run the upgrade wizard now on loader V5.2, it should correctly transition all of the licenses.

Just a quick reminder you don't want to use the old standalone license manager anymore, it's obsolete with Loader V5.
Yep, that worked.

To get the wizard to run again I opened up the old license manager then quit it then ran the loader.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:58 #127940
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43 posts 		Update issue sorted but still missing licenses
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 19:59 #127941
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4869 posts 		valenta43002 in post 127940 said:
Update issue sorted but still missing licenses
It looks like you haven't run the update wizard since we fixed the issue. Start the loader up from fresh and follow the update wizard through.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:01 #127942
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4869 posts 		elltrain3 in post 127934 said:
How does one re-run the upgrade wizard?
It should pop up each time you open loader 5.2 up if it detects it needs to run. If you're not on loader V5.2 press the check for updates button.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:01 #127944
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121 posts 		elltrain3 in post 127934 said:
How does one re-run the upgrade wizard?
I don't know if it is the official solution, but I ran the now obsolete license manager, and after synchronising, I re-run the new loader, which then popped up with the wizard. Clicking on next made all of my sims available, so I can play now
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:02 #127945
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721 posts 		Still not working for me - I don't know if its because when I first upgraded I got my password wrong so I got error 2 - yet it still did the Loader and sims upgrade
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:03 #127946
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721 posts 		sunocske in post 127944 said:
elltrain3 in post 127934 said:
How does one re-run the upgrade wizard?
I don't know if it is the official solution, but I ran the now obsolete license manager, and after synchronising, I re-run the new loader, which then popped up with the wizard. Clicking on next made all of my sims available, so I can play now :)
That worked, thanks!
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:04 #127948
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373 posts 		I Can Second that! all works!
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