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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 14:57 #128217
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Not quite, the lettered screen position hot keys all use Shift + letter, so they don't collide with the regular shortcut hot keys.
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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 15:00 #128219
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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 15:13 #128222
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y10g9 in post 128207 said:
bugsy in post 128205 said:


I have noted one particular change though.
The Timetable Window is much larger in depth now because some of the information that is already in the Train List has been added.
What was the reasoning behind this?
There has only been 2 lines added to the timetable window. The characteristics (Length, Speed, Power) was asked for a little while ago on the forum. Sims are also now getting loop/platform lengths displayed on the panel so this helps with the regulation. Adding the status makes it easier to see what the train is actually doing, especially when in multiplayer.
Thank you for clarifying this.
It doesn't particularly bother me, just wondered why.

Incidentally, I, like some other users, also like the clearer text

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 15:32 #128225
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(EDIT: I didn't see there's already a thread with similar comments)

For me the timetable window still needs some refinement to make it usable. I know others have different approaches, but my preference is to keep the timetable window open but in one corner of the screen.

The first snag is that when you close the TT window, the position and size of the window is not retained (unlike the previous version).

Secondly, the new layout requires way too much screen real estate; for example in the attached screenshot, in v4 the TT box would easily be able to display the next 6-8 locations, whereas in v5 I can't see any. When running a New St for example screen estate is a real premium.

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 15:58 #128230
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Geoff,
Generally, I'm finding things work, to the limited extent that I've tried them. No gripes with font size or typeface.
However, the clock needs some work, which may be in hand. The passing of the seconds is a minor "flashing " irritant, which I expect I will get used to. The wholesale flashing of the whole clock screen on an intermittent basis is a different matter. If I were epileptic, I would be afraid it would have the same effect as a strobe light.
I'll keep you posted, but generally well done!

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 16:23 #128236
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Unless I'm mistaken another nice touch is that the Messages window is now wider. Saves having to widen it each time it's loaded when I start a sim.

The point that others have raised about the clock being too prominent and a distraction doesn't apply to me as I'm too busy looking at what's going on elsewhere so don't notice it.
Could relate to the number of screens being used I suppose.

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 16:26 #128239
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bugsy in post 128236 said:
Unless I'm mistaken another nice touch is that the Messages window is now wider. Saves having to widen it each time it's loaded when I start a sim.

The point that others have raised about the clock being too prominent and a distraction doesn't apply to me as I'm too busy looking at what's going on elsewhere so don't notice it.
Could relate to the number of screens being used I suppose.
Try double clicking on the message window, you might like that new feature.

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 16:31 #128242
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headshot119 in post 128239 said:
bugsy in post 128236 said:
Unless I'm mistaken another nice touch is that the Messages window is now wider. Saves having to widen it each time it's loaded when I start a sim.

The point that others have raised about the clock being too prominent and a distraction doesn't apply to me as I'm too busy looking at what's going on elsewhere so don't notice it.
Could relate to the number of screens being used I suppose.
Try double clicking on the message window, you might like that new feature.
Clever stuff. It enlarges from top to bottom and double clicking again returns it to the original size Could be very useful on the sims that take up a lot of screen depth, e.g. Tyneside IECC and Kings Cross and of course quite a few others.

Any more hidden features that I don't know about?

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 16:45 #128251
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agilchrist in post 128199 said:
If your posts about sims then please place them into the forum threads for the relevant sims, this should be only used for the v5 loader comments.

KX does not have the canal tunnels (your more than welcome to use the old entry points but its gonna make you weep), being a free sim and one of the first there is much discussion about how much work it would take to have the canal tunnels added to the existing sim, due to how this was developed decades ago and where the standards are these days this looks to be a painful change.

However it is still like many things on the list.......
No problem, it just appears to have changed since the loader update (played the same timetable several times before with no shunter calls from the entry point) but I shall take your points and forget I mentioned it!

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 16:47 #128252
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pedroathome in post 128112 said:
TUT in post 128109 said:


I notice on Manchester East the formerly red exit arrows at Stalybridge are now white, is that deliberate?

I see the same has happened on Staffordshire. Noted as Mantis 30861 (East) and 30862 (Staffordshire). Not deliberate, and will have no effect in play-ability. Shall be sorted for the next update.

James
Apologies for chiming in, but I've also noticed this on Rugby North, does the same apply here?
Many thanks.

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 16:58 #128257
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GW43125 in post 128252 said:

Apologies for chiming in, but I've also noticed this on Rugby North, does the same apply here?
Many thanks.
Well spotted Mantis 30898 raised. It won't affect functionality.

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 17:15 #128265
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Sorry to bring this up again, but I hadn't realised there was the ability to lock licences to my computer to access offline! (I know to always look at new features before jumping in with both feet...)

I allocated all my licences to my computer and locked them but cant access them offline still. When I do go on the dropdown bar this is what I get is the attached image.

Is this because my licences didn't upgrade with the loader?


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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 17:17 #128266
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It's been mentioned up thread that Geoff is looking into the issue of locked licenses not working when the computer is not connected to the internet. An update will be posted when it's sorted out.
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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 17:20 #128267
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Ok great. Thanks.

Obvously, I didn't look back through well enough! Lol!

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 17:51 #128272
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headshot119 in post 128266 said:
It's been mentioned up thread that Geoff is looking into the issue of locked licenses not working when the computer is not connected to the internet. An update will be posted when it's sorted out.
On a related note- while I'm able to lock a license and run the simulation offline, it shows as Yellow in the Loader sim selection screen, and the description says I haven't got a license.

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 18:37 #128274
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bugsy in post 128242 said:
headshot119 in post 128239 said:
bugsy in post 128236 said:
Unless I'm mistaken another nice touch is that the Messages window is now wider. Saves having to widen it each time it's loaded when I start a sim.

The point that others have raised about the clock being too prominent and a distraction doesn't apply to me as I'm too busy looking at what's going on elsewhere so don't notice it.
Could relate to the number of screens being used I suppose.
Try double clicking on the message window, you might like that new feature.
Clever stuff. It enlarges from top to bottom and double clicking again returns it to the original size Could be very useful on the sims that take up a lot of screen depth, e.g. Tyneside IECC and Kings Cross and of course quite a few others.

Any more hidden features that I don't know about?
One thing to note about this message window resizing feature - if you're using the Simsig Tool, and have the message window set to a size other than the default, then double-clicking on the window will result in the window returning to its default size (four lines) before expanding to the larger size. Double-clicking again will bring it back to the default four line size. If you want to get it back to where you had it set to with the Simsig Tool, you will have to re-run the tool, which is an impractical solution.

Is there any way this can be addressed so the window returns to the Simsig Tool settings when returning it to the "small" size?

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 18:41 #128275
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lazzer in post 128274 said:
bugsy in post 128242 said:
headshot119 in post 128239 said:
bugsy in post 128236 said:
Unless I'm mistaken another nice touch is that the Messages window is now wider. Saves having to widen it each time it's loaded when I start a sim.

The point that others have raised about the clock being too prominent and a distraction doesn't apply to me as I'm too busy looking at what's going on elsewhere so don't notice it.
Could relate to the number of screens being used I suppose.
Try double clicking on the message window, you might like that new feature.
Clever stuff. It enlarges from top to bottom and double clicking again returns it to the original size Could be very useful on the sims that take up a lot of screen depth, e.g. Tyneside IECC and Kings Cross and of course quite a few others.

Any more hidden features that I don't know about?
One thing to note about this message window resizing feature - if you're using the Simsig Tool, and have the message window set to a size other than the default, then double-clicking on the window will result in the window returning to its default size (four lines) before expanding to the larger size. Double-clicking again will bring it back to the default four line size. If you want to get it back to where you had it set to with the Simsig Tool, you will have to re-run the tool, which is an impractical solution.

Is there any way this can be addressed so the window returns to the Simsig Tool settings when returning it to the "small" size?
The "SimSig Tool" is a third party application, and isn't supported by SimSig. The developer of that application will need to make some changes to work fully with V5.

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 21:05 #128307
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I am not a huge fan of the V5 loader, perhaps just because I prefer familiararity. I really did like the old clock format though and I feel that the new toolbar which has the clock is too big. On the basis that the majority of the functions, can you not put layout style in the options. V4 and V5 so people can choose?
Similarly for the UI, I much prefer the old train timetable layout.


As I have previously said, I would like ways to remove simulations. They clog up the sim list and I will never play some of them because they are too small or not as good as some other sims. I don't feel like we should be forced to have every sim installed just incase we want to buy it or want to play it.

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 21:13 #128308
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markymark2000 in post 128307 said:
As I have previously said, I would like ways to remove simulations. They clog up the sim list and I will never play some of them because they are too small or not as good as some other sims. I don't feel like we should be forced to have every sim installed just incase we want to buy it or want to play it.
This was my reaction as well when the new method of installing sims was rolled out all those years ago. I actually keep a (now not so) little file on my computer with little reviews of each sim that was primarily motivated by a desire to remember which sims I'd actually played!

The nice idea to highlight sims you don't have a license for (at least not one assigned to that computer) in pink was a big improvement.

But have you noticed the new tick box, which I very much like, that allows you to 'only show installed and owned/free simulations'. It doesn't solve the problem of free sims you'll never play, but there are honestly not that many of them.

I'm very much with you in the 'keep things the same' camp. I'll leave it at that, but the old way of downloading each simulation (although I kinda liked it and preferred it) was never that intuitive and I don't think we can reasonably dig our heels in on this point can we?

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 21:33 #128310
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headshot119 in post 128257 said:
GW43125 in post 128252 said:

Apologies for chiming in, but I've also noticed this on Rugby North, does the same apply here?
Many thanks.
Well spotted Mantis 30898 raised. It won't affect functionality.
Many thanks.

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 21:54 #128312
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markymark2000 in post 128307 said:
I don't feel like we should be forced to have every sim installed just incase we want to buy it or want to play it.
You're not forced to. If you do want a sim installed you press the Install button.

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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 22:09 #128317
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is there some revert button ? All I get is a "Welcome to Simsig V5" press next to upgrade ... and there's no upgrade button
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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 22:09 #128318
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just want to get back to my man picc game I was playing
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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 22:11 #128320
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Loader V5 Released! 27/06/2020 at 22:12 #128321
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slatteryc in post 128318 said:
just want to get back to my man picc game I was playing
Do you happen to have some custom scaling options setup? We had one user the other day who had this problem, I reset there scaling option to normal and all was good again.

I have PMd you.

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